Topic: The BP Oil Spill

[Kaizerwolf]

I believe I have come up with a solution that benefits everyone.



The way BP has been acting, them trying to do this wouldn't surprise me. I mean, they tried to put old tires and golfballs in there, Very scientific, BP.

[Matthew]

They already have been doing that. They take it, pour sand on it, and push it down about 5000 feet and call it fixed.

[Ronin RedFox]

They should freeze the source with liquid nitrogen. Problem solved. 

[Matthew]

... Until it thaws.

[Ronin RedFox]

Well, It will at least give them some time to throw more golfballs in. 

[Scyphi]

What they need to do is figure out some way to physically send someone down there with an arch wielder or something to patch up the leak. That's really the only thing that's going to stop it for any length of time.

[-<WillyP>-]

You can't weld a pipe with oil coming out at 5000 psi. Or any psi, to weld, you meed to melt metal. As soon as you melt the metal, the flow will blow the molten metal away.

[Matthew]

You can't weld a pipe with oil coming out at 5000 psi. Or any psi, to weld, you meed to melt metal. As soon as you melt the metal, the flow will blow the molten metal away.

Not to mention the, ahem, conductive nature of water, the explosive nature of oil, and the crushing nature of the ocean floor.

[NUMBERZero]

Would a giant collection umbrella placed over the leak be a good idea? A huge or several tubes goes down to a big cup. They can suck out the oil when it gets to the top. It probably won't get all of the oil, but it will get some.

I think Darc has the idea with liquid nitrogen.

[-<WillyP>-]

The method they are using now is expected to capture 90% and when they finish the relief well, to stop the leak entirely. The problem is a large volume of flow creates ice* which blocks flow, so they need to close the vents on the cap slowly. Also they are having difficulty dealing with the volume of oil coming up through the pipe, as it is mixed with seawater. I believe they tried the umbrella, one of the first things they did. Or maybe they were just talking about it. The relief well is expected to be completed around the end of summer.


*actually they call it an 'ice-like slush'. Whatever that means.  

[Scyphi]

You can't weld a pipe with oil coming out at 5000 psi. Or any psi, to weld, you meed to melt metal. As soon as you melt the metal, the flow will blow the molten metal away.

I said "or something." I kind of already figured that a welder wouldn't work under such conditions, but it was the first thing that I could come up with.

I still say the only way they're permanently going to fix it is if they send somebody down there with whatever tools they need to fix it. The depth is an issue, yes, but isn't there such a thing as a submarine? Just refit it with whatever is needed for it to get you down there.

But if the idea they're working on now actually works, and I mean really works, then I'll be happy. x2

[-<WillyP>-]

At the depths they are dealing with, anything is iffy. Sending humans down isn't going to accomplish much without a good plan. The have put a cap on the pipe.

It's easy to sit here and say they should do this, or do that. BP is loosing their shirt on this deal, and there is no reason to believe they are not doing everything they can to stop the flow. People who have spent their lives studying the ocean, oil drilling, engineering , and other related sciences are working diligently to come up with a working solution.

But don't think I am defending BP, the gov or anyone else involved. Greed and corruption caused this mess. Make no mistake about it, where there is are big profits to be made, you will find greed and corruption.

Obama's Speech: Fact Check

Someone said, well we will clean it up look at the Exxon Valdez incident, there is no trace of it left, it's all but forgotten. Well, that is just plain wrong, decades later, there is still many areas that although they have been cleaned up, have not really recovered. Fisherman have lost their way of life, they were supposed to have been compensated, but have received nothing. And how do you compensated the generations following, who now cannot follow in the traditions of their fathers, or of the village? Again, the little people suffer. The small business fisherman, who owned one or two boats cannot survive a few years of not fishing. He will be forced to go work in some factory, or maybe the big oil company... and the ways are lost to his heirs. Boats will get repossesed, the big business will pick up the slack, and the fat get fatter.

[Kaizerwolf]

My question and main worry is, what happens if BP becomes bankrupt before this whole ordeal is done with? What happens to all the people who really need that compensation?

[NUMBERZero]

No, the question is, what will happen to the BP employees when the people can't get that compensation? They'll hunt them down!



EDIT!!!!: A-HAH!!! the  > : D symbols translate into that emoticon!

[DwnUndr]

Greed and corruption caused this mess.

Uhm, no.  Democrats and their wacko left wing Environmentalists caused this mess.  Preventing drilling on land and in shallow waters caused this mess.  Pushing Oil companies into deeper and deeper water caused this mess.

And halting Gulf of Mexico drilling is slamming another nail in the coffin of the United States.

Vote Democrat if you wish (it is your Constitutional right).  I vote Republican.  I vote American.  'nuff said.

Time to take America back and restore her to her former GLORY of just a few years ago.  Long live America!

(I'm not the one who started this thread heh).