Planet Descent
Community => Descent Levels/ Mods => Topic started by: Alieo on May 24, 2011, 12:51:58 AM
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I had 21 lives going into Descent Vignettes Level 19 "The Center Pillar" and the red reactor room alone took me down to 16 lives--ON TRAINEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VERY tough! VERY tough!
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Level nineteen, level nineteen...I can't remember if I've played that level yet...
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It has the best song in Vignettes IMO (by Pumo).
But the song has no title ??? .
Wait until you hear the version he's remastered for Descent WiiWare... completely awesome (I've heard it - I'm listening to it now :D).
Okay... this is kind of a disjointed post...
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what is this level 19? the original or some add-on? does it work with Descent rebirth?
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It's part of Descent: Vignettes, an addon mission created by DarkFlameWolf. It works fine in Rebirth, as it is a classic Descent 1 mission using no features exclusive to any port (though it does have colored lightning in d2x-xl).
You can even get pretty far in Vignettes using the original DOS executables, but I tried that one for fun, and uh...
it's not worth it :P
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Level 19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSE13Dwoe0
This was actually easy for me on Hotshot. Got to move fast. When you get into the later tunnels, just start unloading missiles.
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@Omega: Well what happened was, after I got out of the yellow room, I got surprised by some damn fusion hulks that spawned from the center room and that ba****d shaved my shields down from 200 to 45 in just a few blows. Then, I went in the red room and got pwned RIGHT next to the reactor so all my sh*** is right there and I wasted 5 lives trying to get it back in the middle of invisible drillers, invisible hulks, and a fusion hulk.
I used to be good. I consider myself an EXCELLENT keyboarder, but on this particular laptop, I'm not allowed to press more than two buttons at the same time. It's impossible to charge up fusion blasts unless I stand PERFECTLY still. I need something that'll quad-chord if there is such a thing because I don't like using all those game pads/joysticks etc. That's why I play on trainee! I'm a sitting duck if I don't!
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Can't press more than two? Wow, what do you do if you need Ctrl-Alt-Del? I'd get a new keyboard, that one is broke. :o
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keyboarder
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lawlz
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How do you get the music for Vignettes? More importantly, HOW do you get those beautiful textures that are in DarkFlameWolf's demo videos on youtube of the level set??? They're AMAZING! Are they high res textures? And also, can they be implemented into regular D1?
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yes and yes.
First you need to go to www.descent2.de and download d2x-xl and get it to run. Once that is finished, go to his downloads section and download my Quake texture pack. Follow instructions on how to install said textures and then load up Vignettes and enjoy.
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Or just install them into the mods folder for Vignettes, like I did.
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maybe over the weekend, I will be able to play this. I read the original post on this, and it is certainly sounding very interesting.
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@Darkflamewolf: Okay, on the site, I do not see anything that is labeled as "Quake" textures, but under "Mods and Conversions" I see a "Descent Mod - Alternative textures and robots provided by DarkFlameWolf for Descent 1:First Strike." Is that the one?
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Ah yes, now I remember that level...it was a doozy. I recall when I played it, I got my shields knocked down pretty bad more than once, but I don't think I ever managed to die.
Of course, that was rapidly becoming a trend in the level set by that point, and I knew by then that I needed to tread carefully.
That's part of what has made Vignettes so much fun, though, the fact that it literally stretches you thin trying to beat some of those levels. I think it got to the point that my shields were consistently well under a hundred, sometimes under fifty or lower, by the time I escaped the mine.
Thank goodness your shields are restored back to one hundred at the start of every level. :D
You know, now that I think about it, I don't think I ever did get around to finish Vignettes, ironically, but I think I was getting very close.
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it's sort of funny reading the original post, and you say where you are in that game, how you're doing, and now reading this and saying "oh yeah....i think I remember that."
you were just talking about it a few days ago!! okay, I know, it was back in 2009, but I was reading it a day or two ago. I got a message, hang on...................what about an Asylum?
hey, my room is ready. I am moving out into some sort of an apartment.
this is what happens when I get in touch with all of my friends, and have a great night laughing and just having a great time :)
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That would be the one Alieo. I made the texture pack to specifically enhance Vignettes. It will work for all Descent 1 levels and mission packs, but the Vignettes levels were specifically textured to take advantage of the Quake texture pack. (looks good without it, but was optimized to look great with it)
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I had time to play one level, did something with my girl friend. So far, its looking pretty darn good :)
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looks like your girlfriend wasn't patient enough if all you had time for was one level! Must have taken you 3 mins or less to beat it! lol
On another note: I'm glad people are still enjoying this mission set. (more so, it seems, then Enemy Within! O_o) I'm also glad people enjoy the difficulty as well. There is only so much you can do with Descent 1 robots and the limited amount of weapons you have available without becoming too cheap or unfair to the player. But people are still tackling this mission and enjoying the difficulty it presents. One of my favorite firefights (and I like at least one good firefight per level) has to be the main tower area of level 18 right after the first blue door with all the lifter and class 1 and 2 platforms. That is just insane fun.
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she's a patient person, I just don't like to keep a lady waiting. not gentleman/decent like.
She was ready for me to go to her place around 6:30, and I had just gotten D1 and D1rebirth installed. had time to play one level, just to see how it was like. I did show her the first official level of Descent. I had the "Planet Descent" tshirt on the other night from the zazzle store, and wanted to show her what Descent was all about :)
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@DFW, Yeah, I always saw those textures in your demo videos. Well, I got it working! Looks great! I just got back into rediscovering Descent back in January, RIGHT IN TIME for the beginning of the school semester... NOW I can play without having to choose between homework and school! lol! I'm on Level 24 now. I've been slowly inching my way through that first room. I DREAD the last level!!! I swear you have an unhealthy love affair with these fusion hulks!! SHEESH! They scared me sh**less when I was 12, and still scare me sh**less at 26!!!
"OWWW-GET-CHA"
*FOOM* goes the Fusion Hulk.
*TONNNNGG* -loses 60 shields
*RUNS AWAY*
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Fusion hulks, oddly, are probably my favorite Descent 1 robot. I think they just get that fear factor across what with the sound and the fact that they can tear off 60 shields in one zap.
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And that's why I hate them...
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played a bit of Call of Duty (zombie mode), and not all players were that great. I decided to start the descent game again, Vignette.
done with 5 levels I think, so far, easy, but I imagine it will be harder soon.
Pretty interesting layout. some remind me of Doom, and I have no real idea why yet. don't take that has an insult. Some see it has "Doom VS Descent", "Pepsi VS Coke", "Windows VS Linux/ VS iMac", etc.
I see it has two different games, both classics were fun. I see both drinks has being refreshing, um. I won't talk about the third. that one I have a slight thing for. not a fan of Windows ;D
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not a fan of Windows
Teeeheeheee!! ;D
Are you playing it with the quake textures?
EDIT: OH! And another thing, this is kinda off topic, but whatever, I started this topic! LOL umm... have you guys ever played D1 with the mods enabled so that the robots in the game turn into The Enemy Within robots? I tried that and that was some tough game playing! And I thought fusion hulks were bad! They turned into these mega missile launching whales! (I don't know what their specific names are because I haven't gotten past the 4th level in TEW, but it's on my summer to do list!)
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forgot about that, thanks Alieo! Included with the Quake textures pack is a single HXM file that mods the Descent 1 robots to be Enemy Within robots! I think I had to leave 1 or 2 robots out, like the Echo. But just about every Enemy Within robot replaces every Descent 1 robot. Now obviously, I had to modify all the robot stats and weaponry to match what Descent 1 has. I can't have a gauss cannon shooting robot in Descent 1, there are so many things you can't remove from the hard coding. So Enemy Within robots had to be dumbed down a bit to fit into the constraints of the Descent 1 hard code. So some robots end up being easier, others...like the Warlord, end up being harder. So if you feel Descent is getting stale, try out the Enemy Within robot mod for Descent 1, might spruce things up abit, even the original campaign!
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And, obviously the mod requires D2X-XL. I don't think that was mentioned.
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I haven't played TEW past level 4, but I was playing D1 with the mods on, and it's like a totally different game. I went up to the Super Hulk boss robot at Level 7, and the mod made it a fusion blasting space ship with fusion hulk sound effects. It was the weirdest thing. Is that thing a boss robot on TEW? It had the same exterior colors and windows as the Pyro GX. Also, a bigger version of that one was the Level 27 boss.
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You'll find it all out when you get to level 5 of TEW... :P
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Well, I gotta finish Level 24 and 25 of Vignettes first. There's just 25 levels right?
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not counting the two secret levels, yes.
The secret levels are actually quite hard to complete, but you get so many goodies from them, they are worth it.
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IMO they're worth it because they look so the best out of all the levels. I don't remember getting very much stuff from either of them.
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Well, the first secret level, you get a good smattering of high-powered weapons prior to reactor destruction. But its only in the maze after reactor destruction that you can get the best stuff. Mega and Smart Missiles up the wazoo, Fusion Cannons, Extra Lives, you name it. However, picking the most ideal route through the maze to snag the most pertinent stuff is tough and may take several reloads until you find the route you want and still make it to the exit on time!
The second secret level is far liberal with its hand-outs. The secret area alone gives you the best treasure trove of all, Extra Lives, Fusion Cannon, boatload of Smart and Mega Missiles. You can freely slam robots in the face with Megas without worrying about running out.
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I'm stuck on level 7 I think. I'll have to try soon again.
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Well, let's see, I'm on level 24, and that's the level I first discovered the quake textures, so, I think I'm going to go ahead and beat 24 and 25 and then start vignettes ALLL over again (with the MODS, but only in Trainee, cuz that is going to be TTTOOOUUUGGGHHH as it is) so I can appreciate the textures of vignettes as you meant for them to be appreciated, DFW.
Then, I'm going to play TEW, and THEN I'll do D1 all over again with the MOD bots enabled, then D2, then there was this mission I downloaded, I forget what it was called, but it takes place after D2. I think it's like a 4 level mission about the lost mines of the Puuma Sphere. That looks like fun, and then FINALLY at long last, reinstall and play D3 for the first time in 9 years! I just want to go in order here.
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I FINISHED VIGNETTES!!!
Level 24 was sooooooo freaky! But I finally beat it, and Level 25. Level 25 was BEAUTIFUL! I !!!LOVED!!! the space ship concept. The exit was so long, and it was like a final goodbye to a long played mission filled with WONDERFUL artistic talent. I just LOVE that part of the Level 25 escape shaft that shows the area you were one last time before the path took you through what appeared to be a hole through an asteroid and then finally out the regular mine shaft surface.
BRAVO DarkFlameWolf!!! Many may have beaten this before, but this was my first time. You have some SERIOUS talent, girl! I don't know what you do for a living, but if it has nothing to do with video game development, I'd seriously consider a career change if I were you, especially if you can make your players SO enveloped into the game that they require a change of shirt after playing those last two levels!
If I ever had to enter a dream of yours like in the movie "Inception," I'll be sure to wear depends before they put me under! Your creative mind is just so wonderful! I am speechless. All I gotta say is THANK YOU FOR LIVING!!! <3 <3 <3
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Thanks? LOL
And change to a career of making games? Losing my creative freedom? No thank you. I have had several buddies finally break into their 'dream' careers of making games, and now they hate their lives. Companies rule the creative venues and rarely let individuals be creative with their talents. I'd rather be on the outside looking in, being free to do the types of games I want to make/play rather than have some nameless suit tell me how to make things to be 'fun.'
As far as Vignettes goes, thanks for the praise, comments like these make all the work worthwhile. Hope you enjoy Vignettes again with the new textures meant specifically for the set and the Enemy Within robots, modified (also) for the set.
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You're welcome. I look forward to playing it all over again. I understand where you're coming from about making games being a "dream" job. The business world is SO cutthroat, ruthless, and soulless... kinda like the fusion hulks.
That reminds me. I always wonder what Descent robot certain people are in my company in the corporate ladder. Here's how I see it in the grocery business, bottom positions listed first, then increasing in rank:
1. Utility Clerks/Custodian: Class 1 Drone
2. Baggers: Class 1 Drone
3a. Cashiers: Class 2 Drone
3b. Stockers: Class 3 Gopher Robot
3c. Meat Clerks: Advanced Lifter
3d. Produce Clerks: Medium Lifter
3e. Deli Clerks: Secondary Lifter
3f. Bakery Clerks: Class 2 Platform Robot
4. Customer Service Boothies: Spider Processing Robot
4a. Bookkeeper/Department Head Back-ups: Small Hulk
5. Floor Supervisor (My position): Class 2 Supervisor Robot
6. Department Heads: Medium Hulk
7. Store Management: Class 1 Driller
8. Store Directors: Class 1 Heavy Driller
9. District Department Directors: Large Hulk (Red Hulk)
10. District Assistant Manager: Class 1 Heavy Driller
11. District Manager: Fusion Hulk
12. Division Assistant Managers: Fusion Hulk
13. Division Vice-President: Super Hulk (Level 7 Boss)
14. Division President: End Hulk (Level 27 Boss)
15. Various Corporate Office Staff: Alien 1 Boss
16. Corporate Board Room Members: Alien 2 Boss
17. CEO: Samuel S. Dravis
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that is some weird thoughts there Alieo.
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yeah, he's either weird or being creative.
I'll say creative ;D
We're all a tad strange here and there. Funny, but normal normal people aren't normal.
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Embrace it! Enjoy being strange and wierd and bizarre!
That's what I do and it makes life fun...
My stock introduction to people I don't know on servers is "If you want to meet someone wierd you've come to the right place."
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that is some weird thoughts there Alieo.
Yeah, I know I'm not your typical cookie-cutter person. I do have abstract ideas. Maybe I have those thoughts because I'm an absolute Descent fanatic, eh? So many people call me weird, I should be used to it right now. Truth is, it pisses me off. No one can quite figure me out. I drive a hearse as a normal everyday car, wear a Soviet military 24 hour analog watch, aviator goggles on my head and grow palm plants in my back yard. I don't have a classification or clique. I'm just me, and that's all I know how to be. And thanks to those who actually understand that!
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So many people call me weird, I should be used to it right now...
I am officially jealous. Everyone I meet is too polite to actually call me wierd, no matter how wierd I try to be.
Ah well, I suppose if I ever see you in real life Ill immediately know who Im looking at (apostrophe key is not working again).
Be yourself. Dont let anyone convince you otherwise.
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I don't have that issue. friends and family will say I'm weird.
What's wrong with a hearse? Mines a military hummer with a 24 hour digital watch; European date setting (even though I'm in the USA)
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so back to Vignettes, which level of the set officially kicked your @$$? Where you felt the challenge was just too insane. (yet you still loved it? :P)
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Trainee.
Game over on level 22.
This was soon after it was released though, and I'm better now, but I haven't really tried again.
Going to try it in coop so I don't have to worry about lives.
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I dunno, a lot of the later levels have been really kicking me in the butt.
Speaking of which, I still need to finish playing through...I think I'm really close though, at the very least only a couple levels away if not less from the end.
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If I recall, level 19 was a mean one. Level 21 was difficult initially but gets easier past the blue door. Level 25 is hard only at the final boss. Too cramped! lol
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Level 25 was nothing cuz I had some invulnerabilities and cloaking devices set aside. Now, Level 19, however, made me so paranoid that from that point on, I started saving as frequently as I do in my emulated games! lol
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Try playing the level 25 boss without an inventory and he becomes a totally different beast altogether.
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No thanks!!!! LOL!!!
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I've learned that as handy the inventory is to have, it does take away the challenge sometimes and make things too easy. It's good practice to try and go without it every now and then, adds to your Descenting skills. ;D
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I would try it but my keyboard does not tri-chord. I wonder if there's a command switch in D2X-XL that allows for tri-chording. If so... I will COLD START Vignettes Level 19 with MODs enabled on INSANE and NEVER die!!!
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if your keyboard can't handle trichording due to ghosting, ect... I don't think any software will allow you to do so without changing your key configuration, assuming that you aren't simply hitting a key limit.
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Would it make a difference if I bought a different keyboard and hooked it up to this laptop?
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Provided it has no keypress limits, and depending on your key config, is jamming/ghosting free (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(key)#Key_jamming_and_ghosting), then yeah, probably.
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In my experience, it usually is the keyboard and not the program/computer, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm right.
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I beat Vignettes on insane with no inventory, its possible. Granted, I had about 2 shields left by the time I reached that exit door! The robots he spawns are far more dangerous than the boss itself it seems! Esp. when they are all that is standing between you and the exit! BLARG! lol