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Title: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on September 15, 2010, 07:06:34 AM
Description: Who is the ultimate Video Game villain? (Submitted by SapphireWolf)

Option 1 - Thief Bot (Descent 2 and 3)
Option 2 - Kerrigan/Queen of Blades (Starcraft)
Option 3 - Bowser (Super Mario)
Option 4 - Ganon(dorf) (Legend of Zelda)
Option 5 - GlaDOS (Portal)
Option 6 - Dr. Breen (Half Life 2)
Option 7 - Kefka (Final Fantasy 6)
Option 8 - Sephiroth (Final Fantasy 7)
Option 9 - Dr. Robotnik (Sonic)
Option 10 - others (please specify)

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Obviously I added a couple to the list. :P I read somewhere on the DBB about this. You go somewhere to vote and Dr. Breen was up against General RAAM and Breen lost by 0.6% of votes......"BULL S***!"

I hardly ever knew who General RAAM was. I play GoW, but General RAAM never ever stood out to me. Just another bug to kill. It was rather uneventful.



Who did I vote for? Hmmm that was tough. I voted for Sigma.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Foil on September 15, 2010, 07:11:50 AM
Oh, come on.

How could you forget Dravis?  ;)
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on September 15, 2010, 07:43:04 AM
DAMMIT!

Ok, lemme reset the thingy and you can vote for him again.
EDIT: Mkay, reset.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: SaladBadger on September 15, 2010, 01:17:58 PM
Too.. many... good... choices...

I'll go with Kefka because I beat him the other night. He's easy these days, yet still epic.

Edit: also dancing mad. dancing mad is the best boss theme ever
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaiaatzl on September 15, 2010, 02:49:56 PM
Dr Breen.

He's a tyrant who tries to delude himself that he isn't.  Almost Shakespearean, in a way.

Theif Bot is my last choice because (in D2) he's so easy when you know how to deal with him (I lead him to a dead end room and drop enough smart mines in the room's exit that he won't escape in one piece.  I usually only have to do it once.)  In D3 he was so easy there wasn't really any point to put him in the game.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on September 15, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
I think I need to come up with a top 5.

0. Targoss- eee-eeeee-iyeeee-yeeehhh-YYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!1!!!!111!

1. Sigma- Because he always comes back a little more corrupt the next time and his fortress stages are pretty cool (except X6. That one is INFURIATING!!!) and they,ve got some cool music.

2. Ridley- Because he always comes back too and he always has the same badass theme!

3. Dr. Breen- I have to say that he is a loveable character. He sounds so right and believable, but you know that he is standing for such a twisted thing. But he seems to be a guy that you just want to know!

4. Dark Samus- Persistant and badass all around. It also turned your bounty hunter friends against you and then killed them, including the most awesome of them all, Rundas.

5. Thief Bot- D2 gave the most fun chases ever. D3's was pathetic, but I changed around its sounds....

6. Dr. Robotnik- Pingas!
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaiaatzl on September 15, 2010, 10:01:49 PM
Top 5... yeeeaaaaah...
*cough*7*cough*
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on September 15, 2010, 11:49:27 PM
Say what now?:P
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: -<WillyP>- on September 16, 2010, 03:38:23 AM
Too me, the word 'villain' conjures up more than just a hard boss or thief-bot, he needs to be planning evil on a much larger scale.  Theif-bot may steal your headlight, but beyond that, he's just a bot.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaizerwolf on September 16, 2010, 04:19:51 AM
Other. Lord Vayne Solidor from Final Fantasy 12. The true image of a villain, he was seriously screwed up in the head. Evil stuff. :D
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on September 16, 2010, 05:32:30 AM
GLaDOS all the way. Partially demented and crazy, yes, but still has a very cold and calculating robot mind in her that's actually kind of scary when you think too hard about it.

Besides, the only computer-based villain that could probably top GLaDOS is HAL, and as far as I know, he doesn't appear in any video game that I've heard of.

Some of these others would make for good runner-ups, though. Dravis is one of them, though I kind of always found him to be a bit reckless and overconfident, putting too much support on too simple a solution that may or may not work.

But then again, I guess that's kind of a requirement with villains, isn't it? :P
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on September 16, 2010, 09:02:24 AM
Everyone on my top *cough* 5 had evil intentions. Sigma wants to rule the world, Ridley wants to destroy Samus and the Federation, Breen was explained, Dark Samus wants to corrupt the galaxy with Phazon, Theif Bot is probably the most evil one of them all, wanting to steal everything you have. Robotnik...."Pingas!"

Targoss is the Devil's Advocate and wants to steal your soul!
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on September 17, 2010, 06:10:21 AM
Aw c'mon, Robotnik's really kind of a laugh as a villain when you really think about it. :P
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Matthew on September 18, 2010, 07:22:10 AM
I have to say theifbot. He is truly evil.

(Or targoss  :P)
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaiaatzl on September 18, 2010, 08:01:09 AM
Quote from: Scyphi linjavascript:void(0);k=topic=486.msg5948#msg5948 date=1284732621
Aw c'mon, Robotnik's really kind of a laugh as a villain when you really think about it. :P

Yeah... he's way too overconfident, for one thing...
And by the time they actually started developing his character (~Sonic Adventure to Sonic Heroes I think) he was never the actual villain...  In Sonic Heroes he was only really in Team Chaotix's story (as their client).  Every time someone actually fought him he was actually Metal Sonic in disguise (I'm assuming he was Metal Sonic in Egg Hawk too, since everyone else seems to think so).
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on September 18, 2010, 10:12:48 AM
He's slowly starting to make a comeback as being the actual villain in games, though, which seems to be the case for both the upcoming Sonic 4 (http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com) and Sonic Colors (http://www.sega.com/games/sonic-colors/), but yeah, point taken.

Of course, if we're going to be mentioning Sonic-related villains, then I feel obligated to add a vote for Mephiles (http://info.sonicretro.org/Mephiles). Game he appeared in may have been less than satisfactory, but he was a great villain nonetheless. 8)
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: karx-elf-erx on October 06, 2010, 11:37:58 PM
Darth Vader. He's iconic.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: X-ray on October 07, 2010, 03:28:01 AM
i really hate Dark Samus.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: D2Disciple on October 08, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
I'm torn between Darth Vader, Dr. Breen, and GLaDOS. Vader is just the penultimate villain who comes clean at the very end of his life. Dr. Breen is, by far, the most intelligently created and believable villain in one of the most intelligently created games of all time. GLaDOS just has character in spades and manages to be simultaneously hilarious and malicious at once... Hard choice.  ;)
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Pumo on October 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Hard choice for me also.

Anyway, I voted for D1 Lvl7 Super Hulk as is one my favorite 'villans' on Videogames as appearance and 'personality', if you want to say it that way, and i'm a total Descent fan. Also I remember when I played against him on D1 Shareware when I was a Child, and his characteristic sound that made me sweat cold. That's such a great boss!

However, in a deeper view, I would actually vote for Darth Vader in the first place, but I consider him more a Movie villan (although of course is also a part of Video Games) than a VG villan.

Another couple of VG villans I like is Dark Matter from Kirby and Lavos (in his outer shell form) from Chrono Trigger.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaiaatzl on October 15, 2010, 03:36:20 PM
To me the D1 level 7 boss and Darth Vader are basically the same thing :P.
When I first played Descent, my first though was that these lasers were the same as Star Wars.

If Anne McCaffery's dragon novels were ever made into a game I'd have to say Thread would be my favourite game villain, as it's my favourite villain of all time.  So inventive.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on October 15, 2010, 06:02:13 PM
I just remembered that a lot of people like Giegue/Giygas from Mother/Earthbound.

I don't have the games, but I've read the story. I'll give a stupid ittle summary. Details might not be precise, but they are accurate.

A psychic alien race called the Starmen abducts a human couple to raise one of their babies called Giegue (why?). The human couple get psychic powers. The mother has a child named Ninten(do). The dad escapes back to Earth with the child who inherited their parents' psychic abilities.

Years later, the Starmen discover Ninten and his psychic abilities. The Starmen were fat and jelous, so guess who they send to go destroy Earth? None other than Giegue himself. He is defeated all because he was sung a bedtime that his human mother used to sing to him and he cried all the way home in a huge battle cruiser. (I'm a good story teller on this one, arn't I?)

AND THEN! Giegue was very angry and could not get over the emotional memories that that song brought back, so he turned into PURE EVIL and was called Giygas. And then the power of God helped stop this one!

Epic story telling FTW!
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on October 16, 2010, 07:23:58 AM
Certainly deserving of a Pultizer, that story-telling.

Or...something. :P
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on October 16, 2010, 02:03:49 PM
IDK. That's SOMETHING, but the actual story is way, way better.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Violetta on October 27, 2010, 07:20:52 PM
Dark Samus = best
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Crash on November 01, 2010, 09:00:21 AM
Dark Samus sounds interesting but where is Shodan from System Shock (and 2)?

That was the mother of all homicidal computers (ie. Glados) and I'm pretty sure that's where Valve got the idea of Glados from.
I remember how eerie it was in System Shock 2. That really was a system shock to me anyway back then.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on November 02, 2010, 09:35:26 AM
Did some research on SHODAN on Wikipedia, which included a sample of her voice, and upon comparing her (or it) to GLaDOS, I find myself reluctantly agreeing with that sentiment. While I haven't actually played the game System Shock and probably never will, SHODAN seems truly terrifying, and GLaDOS seems tame in comparison.

Although there is one thing GLaDOS's got that SHODAN does not seem to; a sense of humor. :P
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Crash on November 02, 2010, 10:48:38 AM
That's true! Portal was a great production of a puzzle game with some nice, dark humour.

System Shock and its sequel were incredibly tricky though. I could never really do too much with them - too dense. When it comes to shooters, I'm there for the shooting, not the puzzles.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on November 02, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
I just watched a few System Shock videos. Almost made me have to change my underwear. :S

I would definately play a System Shock 3. They left a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: VANGUARD on November 22, 2010, 09:18:31 AM
This was very hard. Do I choose a strong villian/boss like Descent 3's final boss, or even the boss in D3: mercenary?
Do I choose one from Call of Duty:Black Ops where in the zombie gamemode (map: Five), a professor/scientist will come up and take your gun away, no way of running from him. he runs FAST, and WILL get your gun, no matter what.
can't escape. that was my first choice.

then I thought of "Red" from Penumbra: Overture.

a so called friend that you depend on, that tricks you in such things and tries to get you killed. but like I said, you have to go along with what he says to move forward.

it's a toss up between those two.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Kaiaatzl on November 22, 2010, 09:56:36 AM
I like the way some people are choosing based on gameplay rather than story.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: NUMBERZero on November 22, 2010, 03:25:32 PM
Sigma has a lot of story and gameplay. Giegue has BUTTLOADS of story. I'd have him as 2nd place in my list and I haven't had a lick of gameplay from his game.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: SaladBadger on November 22, 2010, 04:31:49 PM
When it comes to awesome plots, Gameplay can take a hike. Despite being able to do this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1tTmxZQVQs) to Kefka, he's still a pretty powerful villain coming close to destroying the entire world and committing all sorts of atrocities (now the rest of the game's gameplay is really good!), which is why I picked him. He's truly evil.
Title: Re: Video Game Villans
Post by: Scyphi on November 23, 2010, 09:47:20 AM
I'm with Insanity Bringer, in this instance, judging by gameplay certainly is not a requirement. :)