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Title: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 19, 2010, 12:19:13 PM
I have a win 7 64 bit PC (processor: Pentium(R) dual-core CPU E6300 @ 2.80 GHz 2.80 GHz RAM: 8.00 GB) and I use the
Dateiliste version d3 to play. But when I play the only movie that plays is the dolby ad. and just to be clear I'm not talking about the ones where it show something happening live in the game from a different angle.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Foil on May 19, 2010, 12:52:35 PM
Do you have the files in your \Descent3\Movies folder?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 19, 2010, 01:33:47 PM
The Descent 3 version from Dateiliste turns the movies off by default because most players don't want them (after having seen them often enough).

Start Descent 3, click on Setup, then the Misc page. Remove the text "-nointro" from the command line switches.

Remember to put that switch back in after you've watches it 100 + times.  ;D
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 19, 2010, 04:34:15 PM
The Descent 3 version from Dateiliste turns the movies off by default because most players don't want them (after having seen them often enough).

Start Descent 3, click on Setup, then the Misc page. Remove the text "-nointro" from the command line switches.

Remember to put that switch back in after you've watches it 100 + times.  ;D

All it says is United States. Oh and I have a new problem the mouse response is choppy but not in the briefings :'(
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Scyphi on May 20, 2010, 05:31:17 AM
Quote from: Thomas
Remember to put that switch back in after you've watches it 100 + times.

Or just hit escape. ;)
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Foil on May 20, 2010, 06:18:38 AM
All it says is United States.

You're not looking in the right place. 

Again: In the D3 Launcher, go to the "Misc" tab, and look in the text field toward the bottom.  There will be a number of options, including "-nointro".  Take that option out.  [If it's not there, you're missing some movie files from your installation.]

 
Oh and I have a new problem the mouse response is choppy but not in the briefings :'(

That means you have an extra Descent3 process still running on your machine.  Go to Task Manager and stop any processes called 'main.exe'.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: NUMBERZero on May 20, 2010, 09:50:39 AM
No, he's looking in the right place. My command line says United States too. I've ever touched it because I have the original Descent and I just use Vortex for my cmd line swithces. His problem must be imbedded somewhere in some file.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Foil on May 20, 2010, 09:55:52 AM
Weird.

In any case, there are two things to check to ensure the movies play:

1.  Make sure the movie files are in the \Descent3\Movies folder.
2.  Make sure the "-nointro" command line option is not being used (whereever it happens to be set).
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: NUMBERZero on May 20, 2010, 10:17:57 AM
What if you put in "-yesintro"?  :D

Adding some seriousness, what about "-nointro_0"? By puttin a 0 or a 1 after a command, it usually means off and on, respectively.

I think Thomas needs to shed some light as to why it doesn't work if the command isn't there.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 20, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
All it says is United States. Oh and I have a new problem the mouse response is choppy but not in the briefings :'(
There's a field called "Optional D3 Command Line Switches". That's the one I was talking about. Remove the "-nointro" from there if you want to see the movies.

Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 20, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
What if you put in "-yesintro"?  :D

Adding some seriousness, what about "-nointro_0"? By puttin a 0 or a 1 after a command, it usually means off and on, respectively.

I think Thomas needs to shed some light as to why it doesn't work if the command isn't there.
This command line switch is a D3 command line switch (or parameter). Nothing will happen if you make that something else, or the game would refuse to start, I don't know. That depends on the software.

The D3 version from Dateiliste puts the "-nointro" parameter in by default. That's all.  :D Normally, this concerns the dolby intro, not the game movies.

If the movie files don't exist, then something or someone must have deleted them.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 20, 2010, 11:09:35 AM
Just tested that. I compared the files with the files from the original CDs.

I can confirm that the Descent 3 version from Dateiliste doesn't contain the complete movies for Descent 3: Retribution. It only contains the file for Mercenary. That's a bug.

The next version will fix that.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 20, 2010, 11:20:51 AM
The next version will fix that.
how do I update.
Oh and the mouse thing doesn't happen all the time why? 
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 20, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
Excuse my typical ignorance, but what is the "Dateiliste D3 version"?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Kaiaatzl on May 20, 2010, 12:58:16 PM
Just tested that. I compared the files with the files from the original CDs.

I can confirm that the Descent 3 version from Dateiliste doesn't contain the complete movies for Descent 3: Retribution. It only contains the file for Mercenary. That's a bug.

The next version will fix that.


Dang.  That's what I thought.  I finally completed D3 retribution and there was no movie at the end.  Luckily I saved after I beat the end boss (out of habit).

I'm using the Dateiliste version so I don't need my CDs.  Good thing too, because my CD drive stopped working a few months ago.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Crash on May 20, 2010, 01:02:34 PM
Well assuming that everyone's meant to own a copy anyhow - can those files not simply be transferred across from the CD-ROM into the appropriate directory?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Foil on May 20, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Oh and the mouse thing doesn't happen all the time why? 

I already answered that, Jayman.

Again, it happens when you have an extra Descent3 process running (usually left after a crash).  Just go to Task Manager, stop any process called 'main.exe'.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 20, 2010, 01:12:49 PM
Well assuming that everyone's meant to own a copy anyhow - can those files not simply be transferred across from the CD-ROM into the appropriate directory?
No. They're compressed in the original installer too.

Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 20, 2010, 01:28:43 PM
Excuse my typical ignorance, but what is the "Dateiliste D3 version"?

Its a version made for new pc's. Read about it hear http://www.dateiliste.com/descent-3/26-descent-3-installation-updates-and-modifications/120-download-the-full-version-of-descent-3.html (http://www.dateiliste.com/descent-3/26-descent-3-installation-updates-and-modifications/120-download-the-full-version-of-descent-3.html)
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 20, 2010, 01:37:12 PM

I already answered that, Jayman.

Again, it happens when you have an extra Descent3 process running (usually left after a crash).  Just go to Task Manager, stop any process called 'main.exe'.
No no no I mean why dose it run an extra Descent3 process. Sorry
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Foil on May 20, 2010, 01:39:50 PM
No no no I mean why dose it run an extra Descent3 process. Sorry

Ah, understood.  The extra D3 process is usually left behind after a crash, or if D3 didn't exit correctly (often caused by video or sound driver issues).

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Jayman, you already own Descent3, correct?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 20, 2010, 03:35:51 PM
Jayman, you already own Descent3, correct?
yes but can we cut down on the side topics
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 20, 2010, 04:12:06 PM
Jayman, you already own Descent3, correct?
yes but can we cut down on the side topics
rawr. He's just trying to help. Be nice.

You could install D3 somewhere off the disks, then grab the movies from there and put them where they need to be in the datieliste version.

Also:

Quote
The complete installation of Descent 3 takes at least a few days, and novice computer users have no chance at all.
Where did you get that from? I've never had problems installing D3, and it certainly didn't take days.

Also again:

I just noticed a mention of OG3... Any chance of a working stand-alone installer for that? I got it working for about a month on my old PC and haven't been able to get it working since. It was awesome and I'd love to be able to get it working without downloading and installing all the other stuff I already have.

/hijack
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: NUMBERZero on May 20, 2010, 05:35:58 PM

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The complete installation of Descent 3 takes at least a few days, and novice computer users have no chance at all.
Where did you get that from? I've never had problems installing D3, and it certainly didn't take days.

He's talking about Dateiliste's D3. That has just about EVERYTHING there is for D3. Loads of missions and other things.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 03:02:36 AM
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The complete installation of Descent 3 takes at least a few days, and novice computer users have no chance at all.
Where did you get that from? I've never had problems installing D3, and it certainly didn't take days.
Lol... And then this:
I just noticed a mention of OG3... Any chance of a working stand-alone installer for that? I got it working for about a month on my old PC and haven't been able to get it working since. It was awesome and I'd love to be able to get it working without downloading and installing all the other stuff I already have.

You're so funny!  :D
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 21, 2010, 03:13:59 AM
Quote
The complete installation of Descent 3 takes at least a few days, and novice computer users have no chance at all.
Where did you get that from? I've never had problems installing D3, and it certainly didn't take days.
Lol... And then this:
I just noticed a mention of OG3... Any chance of a working stand-alone installer for that? I got it working for about a month on my old PC and haven't been able to get it working since. It was awesome and I'd love to be able to get it working without downloading and installing all the other stuff I already have.

You're so funny!  :D

OG3 =/= D3.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 03:41:07 AM
OG3 =/= D3.
I didn't say it was.  ;D
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 21, 2010, 03:49:02 AM
You could install D3 somewhere off the disks, then grab the movies from there and put them where they need to be in the datieliste version.
I have an old computer running D3 on xp could someone tell me which files I'm copping and to where.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: -<WillyP>- on May 21, 2010, 04:12:21 AM
Look in the 'movies' folder. Any files you don't have.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 04:15:43 AM
Look in the 'movies' folder. Any files you don't have.
That's the wrong advice in this case, because the files are there. They've only got a filesize of 1 kB. That's why it wasn't noticed before.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Crash on May 21, 2010, 05:46:00 AM
That must be some good compression they're using there.  :D
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Kaiaatzl on May 21, 2010, 06:35:18 AM
I believe the 1 kb file size is because the movies don't contain anything.  The files just need to be there for the game to run (no idea why Outrage made it that way).  On "medium" install, the movies are read from the CD.  (I believe it works the same way in D2.)
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: -<WillyP>- on May 21, 2010, 09:54:33 AM
So delete them then copy any you are missing.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Kaiaatzl on May 21, 2010, 10:26:12 AM
My problem is I can't get them off the CD because my CD drive doesn't work.  (Even when it did, the installer would crash when I tried to do the full install).
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 21, 2010, 11:24:33 AM
My problem is I can't get them off the CD because my CD drive doesn't work.  (Even when it did, the installer would crash when I tried to do the full install).
I will try and if they work I will post them (as long as the are ok with it).

update: Thomas beat me to it
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 21, 2010, 03:36:19 PM
OG3 =/= D3.
I didn't say it was.  ;D

So is that a no on getting a working OG3 installer without the rest?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 03:51:48 PM
update: Thomas to it ([url]http://www.dateiliste.com/component/content/article/442-special-directory.html/?dir=%2Finstaller%2F96.233.121.35_c1119ddc02a4a19e4530317477810470%2FD3%2F[/url])

What made you think this will work, although on the page just before you reach that one it clearly says it won't?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
So is that a no on getting a working OG3 installer without the rest?
It takes you a maximum of 2 hours to download "the rest", including OG3, ready to be played, if you have DSL, maybe another 15 minutes to install it. You can have a coffee, some snack, or a beer in the meantime.

I'd take me 10 hours (or more) to create your OG3 stand-alone installer, without coffee, snack, or a beer.

So far, almost 200 others were happy with "the rest", including OG3.

You're right, that's a "No". ;)

But you're the one who can install Descent 3 in less than 2 days full-time and never had any problems. ;)

I can assure you, you are really funny. ;)


Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 21, 2010, 04:22:55 PM
I don't considering downloading and installing 3gb of extras to be part of installing D3. I also already have a nearly 5-gb D3 folder, why would I want to use your installer and end up with less in the end? Nobody even plays OG3 anyway so it would be a waste to install the entire game again just to use one mod that nobody plays anyway that requires other players to play with.

Am I doing something wrong when installing OG3 or does it just not work period? And how did you get it to work in your installer when the one it comes with doesn't?
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 21, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
I don't considering downloading and installing 3gb of extras to be part of installing D3. I also already have a nearly 5-gb D3 folder, why would I want to use your installer and end up with less in the end? Nobody even plays OG3 anyway so it would be a waste to install the entire game again just to use one mod that nobody plays anyway that requires other players to play with.

Am I doing something wrong when installing OG3 or does it just not work period? And how did you get it to work in your installer when the one it comes with doesn't?

You are really so funny... ;)
I got to stop this here. Sorry.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 21, 2010, 07:57:24 PM
I don't considering downloading and installing 3gb of extras to be part of installing D3. I also already have a nearly 5-gb D3 folder, why would I want to use your installer and end up with less in the end? Nobody even plays OG3 anyway so it would be a waste to install the entire game again just to use one mod that nobody plays anyway that requires other players to play with.

Am I doing something wrong when installing OG3 or does it just not work period? And how did you get it to work in your installer when the one it comes with doesn't?

You are really so funny... ;)
I got to stop this here. Sorry.

Please don't troll. It was funny the first time, slightly humorous the second time, now it's just getting old.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Jayman on May 22, 2010, 02:29:43 AM
What made you think this will work, although on the page just before you reach that one it clearly says it won't?

yesterday when I posted it was fine
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Thomas on May 22, 2010, 02:47:39 AM
What made you think this will work, although on the page just before you reach that one it clearly says it won't?

yesterday when I posted it was fine
It worked for you.

It's what's called a session URI (or URL). It also disappears after some time.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Crash on May 22, 2010, 03:11:04 AM
I'm not sure what OG3 is to be honest but this installer is pretty good.
It certainly opened my eyes to all the mods out there. I can understand why people would want to use the discs at the same time.
I understand that not everyone believes in things that they haven't done/installed themselves but this package Thomas has released works great for me.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: -<WillyP>- on May 22, 2010, 05:46:28 AM
Olympia Gold is a racing mod for D3. And tyhe reason nobody ever plays it, is it never worked 100%.

Seems like a fun concept though, if Tomas got it working maybe someone will host it, once word gets out some more and people get it installed.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: Scyphi on May 22, 2010, 06:29:39 AM
Oh yeah, it was a good idea, although, admittedly, D3 ships travel a bit slow for the effect to really work.  :-\
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: -<WillyP>- on May 22, 2010, 07:07:52 AM
I'm sure that could be changed.
Title: Re: Descent 3 movies (Dateiliste)
Post by: IHateHackers on May 22, 2010, 08:08:14 AM
Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that reinstalling several gigabytes of stuff just to get OG3 working isn't worth it.