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Title: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Ronin RedFox on July 22, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
If Oscar the Grouch were to go into space, this is what I envision his ship would look like.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/mh35tv.jpg)

This of course is the shuttle used to “rescue” Dr. Sweitzer from the Novak Corporate Prison in level 2 of Descent 3.

This has got to be the ugliest, most un-space worthy POS I’ve seen, with maybe the exception of the flying Tilt-A-Whirl in the 1985 film Explorers. With all the cool ships in the Descent series, this is the ugly stepchild. It looks like it was thrown together in 5 minutes with minimal polygons and a left-over texture map. Then as an afterthought they added a few asymmetrical fins for “aerodynamics”.  

Does anyone have the inside story behind this brain-fart?



Submitted By PyroJockey
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 22, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
XD

I've always thought that that ship was a little out of proportion with the design of the game.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Planet Orange [phx13] on July 22, 2009, 09:26:57 PM
Wow it wasnt until right now that I realized that ship looked like crap
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: D2Disciple on July 23, 2009, 05:24:09 AM
I just noticed that you can actually see the person inside of the front, and he's the size of a Pyro itself (but I guess that was the case in all Descent games - it just... looks more pronounced here).

As a shuttle, it looks quite useless because from eyeballing it that thing has about as much space inside the cargo hold as the trunk in my Pontiac Grand Prix.  ;)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 23, 2009, 05:55:27 AM
I think you guys aren't giving this ship enough credit. It only looks bad, because it was rendered bad. Hey, as we all know, the fusion engine can only do so much. Personally, I think it's a ship that has a lot of potential. It just needs a little tweaking here and there. :)

Quote from: Darcshadow7
with maybe the exception of the flying Tilt-A-Whirl in the 1985 film Explorers.

Now I have to object to that, I thought Explorers was a pretty cool movie. Still do, in fact. 8)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: PyroJockey on July 23, 2009, 08:35:19 AM
Now I have to object to that, I thought Explorers was a pretty cool movie. Still do, in fact. 8)

I was only commenting on the space-worthy appearance of the flying Tilt-A-Whirl, a.k.a. The "Thunder Road", seen in the film. I was not rating the film in general. It was supposed to look like something a couple kids kludged together from junk so it fit in the movie. I would not expect to see one on Descent, unless you are planning a ship mod.

I think it's a ship that has a lot of potential. It just needs a little tweaking here and there.

That I would like to see. Tweak away, let's see what you come up with.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: -<WillyP>- on July 23, 2009, 03:15:17 PM
It's gonna need more than a tweak! Start over.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: PyroJockey on July 23, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
I think the more you look at it, the worse it looks

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/441/shuttle.jpg)

Why couldn't we give the Doc' a ride in the Pyro, like we did in the olden days?

(Did anyone ever take a head count as to the most number of hostages we could rescue in a regular level?)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 23, 2009, 05:19:28 PM
I think 9 or 10! 0_o
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: TechPro on July 24, 2009, 04:46:27 AM
Can't use the Pyro to carry the Doc ... Yer Pyro was just in that acid room a couple minutes ago.  That stuff's probably still dripping off yer wings!  (OK, so you only drove through the gas vapors ... it's still a possible issue)


EDIT: You know, that can ain't really all that bad.  It's got racing stripes, dude!
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 24, 2009, 05:59:12 AM
Pyro's got shields. I can get it through starting at 200 S and getting to the end of the acid tunnels at 200 S. I see no problem with strapping him to the hood and making a fancy hood ornament.

Lol racing stripes. And it has a big engine to boot!
 But wait, if that engine is large, it would take up a lot of room in the ship, not to mention anti-gravity machinery, so where does that leave room for passenger space?

Maybe they stuff the good doctor into a pocked demension! ;)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: PyroJockey on July 24, 2009, 06:38:08 AM
How about jamming the Doc' into guide-bot's docking bay?
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 24, 2009, 06:51:14 AM
I think what this craft's biggest problem is it's dimensions. Maybe if one were to tweak the dome, curve it more, elongate the overall length of the craft, adjust the size of the little door thing on it's one side...maybe find a way to make it slightly more symmetrical.... :-\

Hey, at least it beats the guy and his fighter craft in level 11 (I think, the one on Titan, right before the Proving Grounds level?) that you have to rescue. Basically a clone of the shuttle, but with a lot more unneeded fins.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Ronin RedFox on July 24, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
I think what this craft's biggest problem is it's dimensions. Maybe if one were to tweak the dome, curve it more, elongate the overall length of the craft, adjust the size of the little door thing on it's one side...maybe find a way to make it slightly more symmetrical.... :-\

Hey, at least it beats the guy and his fighter craft in level 11 (I think, the one on Titan, right before the Proving Grounds level?) that you have to rescue. Basically a clone of the shuttle, but with a lot more unneeded fins.

I actually kinda liked that one.  :P
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: InsanityBringer on July 24, 2009, 01:00:47 PM
His voice made up for how wierd his ship was (http://basementnet.dyndns.org/ryan/phpbbsmilies/icon_razz.gif)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Foil on July 27, 2009, 06:46:27 AM
How about jamming the Doc' into guide-bot's docking bay?

... and leaving the Guide-Bot behind?  I'm all for it.  ;)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 27, 2009, 08:01:53 AM
I wonder what GB does when he's in that little docking bay...

Maybe he's got cable or something. :p
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: -<WillyP>- on July 27, 2009, 02:39:33 PM
How about jamming the Doc' into guide-bot's docking bay?
No need, we already know the hostage compartment in the Pyro is HammerSpace!
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: TechPro on July 27, 2009, 07:06:23 PM
I wonder what GB does when he's in that little docking bay...

Maybe he's got cable or something. :p
Nah, not cable.  He's got Dish (wireless you know).   :D
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 28, 2009, 04:29:49 AM
Actually in the books (here I go again ;)) they removed his wireless modem in fear of the virus infecting the robot. :P
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 28, 2009, 06:29:07 AM
Well, no wonder he's so annoying then, he's got nothing better to do. :P
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: D2Disciple on July 28, 2009, 09:29:02 AM
An infected guidebot would most likely be much more entertaining than a non-infected guidebot.  :P
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Ronin RedFox on July 28, 2009, 09:34:46 AM
Yea, Guidebot with rocket launchers FTW!
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 28, 2009, 01:11:59 PM
Mine must be infected then.  :-X
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: PyroJockey on July 28, 2009, 02:44:12 PM
Guide bot did have that evil twin available for D2 levels.  >:(
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 28, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
Oh! Somebody elaborate on that or point me to a downloadable single player level with it!
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: PyroJockey on July 28, 2009, 08:01:38 PM
Oh! Somebody elaborate on that or point me to a downloadable single player level with it!

As I recall, it wasn't very impressive. A charcoal gray guidebot that made a kind of growling sound, would ram you and explode with great force.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: InsanityBringer on July 28, 2009, 09:35:03 PM
Basically the evil twin is the omega defense spawn (those fish-bots) under the guise of a green guidebot.

There was also a green heavy driller from D1 that shot two homing missiles rather than plasma. The DEVIL name for them ("Mine Guard") suggests they were originally intended to be the original Lou Guard concept.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 29, 2009, 05:45:37 AM
That makes sense, because I learned recently that D2 was originally going to be an add-on to D1, and not an actual, physical, sequel.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 29, 2009, 08:27:30 AM
Sweet! Now is there a downloadable level with this evil twin?
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Scyphi on July 30, 2009, 05:46:32 AM
They're in a whole number of them. So much so, I actually find it a touch hard to believe you haven't encountered one before, no offense. :P

Mm...from the top of my head, I can't name one at the moment.  :-\
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: D2Disciple on July 30, 2009, 05:48:33 AM
They're really quite obvious.... And easy to kill. Chances are you've seen them before but blew them away too fast to really notice. :P
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 30, 2009, 07:14:42 AM
I've never downloaded any D2 mission before becides Enemy Within.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: D2Disciple on July 30, 2009, 11:30:29 AM
Actually, they are within the standard D2 campaign.  ;)
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: NUMBERZero on July 30, 2009, 02:36:33 PM
Unless you are talking about the little blue one always stuck in the cage. Maybe you should play through the game again. :o There are none. I even checked in the editor.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: Foil on July 30, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
Yeah, I don't remember those in the D2 campaign, either.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: TechPro on July 30, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
I've played the standard D2 campaign (and the Vertigo campaign) like a bazillion times.  The Evil GB isn't used in either one ... but it is available for you to put in custom levels.
Title: Re: Flying Garbage Can!
Post by: D2Disciple on August 03, 2009, 05:56:07 AM
Well, you learn something new every day. Could have sworn I saw it in a level, but I guess not. The editor does not lie.  ;)