Planet Descent
Community => Mess Hall => Topic started by: Blackwolf454 on February 04, 2010, 11:43:46 AM
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Just wanted to see what you guys think
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I picked Descent 1 because that one was the most fun and the hardest
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I'm not all for the nostalgia of playing the first two... I just like D3.
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Descent 3 is fun but Descent 1 is a old school classic
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Well, you'd think that the name "D2Junkie" would have something to do with it... ;)
But actually, that's more or less fallen by the wayside. As I get older, I think D1 is the best, and here's why:
1. Difficulty. This game is a classic example of how old games were tremendously difficult. Even on the Rookie setting, the game can get really difficult really quickly (with a keyboard, I still have trouble making it through secret level 1). I've never beaten the game, even on trainee.
2. Design. As often a point of criticism as it is a point of praise, D1's levels are intentionally confusing. There's hardly any form to them. There's no special architecture to which everything is designed around, with the exception of a few levels (26, for instance). While very architecturally intricate designs can be very cool (see "The Enemy Within" campaign for D2), there's just something equally as enjoyable in a very maze-like, confusing layout.
3. Simplicity. Ten weapons. A whole lotta 'bots. A few keys. Blow the reactor, leave. There's no difficulty in understanding what to do or where to go - just in memorizing secret item locations, energy centers, level-specific tactics, etc. The action keeps moving from start to finish. In D2, it occasionally slows down when you're searching for switches and such. In D3, it happens more often than I'd like to think about. But in D1, it's all about going where the automap says you haven't if you've gotten stuck, and that's about it.
So that's my reasoning. Of course, D2 and D3 are awesome in their own right, and you can't beat D3's multiplayer. ;)
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D3 multiplayer is the best. Thing about Descent 2 and 3 the action would slow down finding stuff. In Descent 1 it's nonstop in your face action. I just beat Descent 1 just about year ago. I beat D2 and D3 the year they came out. And I like the maze type stuff in Descent 1. And D2junkie whats with you picking Descent 1 your such a liar lol.
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I like them all and I play them all, but I keep going back to D1 more than the others.
"I admire its purity. A survivor. Unclouded by conscious, remorse, or delusions of morality." ;)
P.S. Déjà vu (http://www.planetdescent.net/index.php?topic=70.0)
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I voted for D3. I loved D1 when it came out, never played D2 until recently. I think D2 is too abstract.
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Tough choice. I have to say D3 because of longer and objective-based missions.
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What I have noticed Descent 2 has got no votes ;D
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Tough choice. I've always enjoyed Descent 1, and Descent 2 has always been lots of fun and since I have the Vertigo series as well ... endless playability.
I voted for Descent 3 which rocks with the multiplayer, the graphics are better, and ... call me weird ... I actually like the single player in Descent 3.
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I prefer Descent 2. The original game play design, with improved environment and weapons. Descent 3 sucked for single player. Only good thing with Descent 3 is the multi-player.
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Darkwing, I have to disagree... I'm with TechPro, D3 singleplayer is great!
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D3 singleplayer is good...I just wish there was more of it. :)
As such, I voted for D1, as it was much more singleplayer oriented, and there are tons of brilliant levels out there, both custom and original, that were made for that game that I never seem to get tired of playing again and again. D1 almost had the best atmosphere, very dark and mysterious, which really begins to dwindle in the later games.
Then, of course, there are all of the aforementioned reasons other people have stated about D1. :)
All three of the Descent games are pretty good, though, grouped close enough together that it's almost pretty hard to choose a favorite. :P
If D4 was made, I would want it to be a hybrid of all three games, being able to choose different gameplay styles (so one could choose to do D3's objective based missions or D1's arcade-style destroy and run missions).
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I voted for Descent 1. It is the only game out of the 3 where I can just keep playing it over and over and over. Descent 2 was good, they kept a lot of the same things and added sweet new guns (like the Helix, that thing is so amazing). But the alien environment-like-tone just didn't do it for me. I was so used to Descent 1 that Descent 2 just felt like it was not the same. And don't even get me started on Descent 3. I play it once in a while lol.
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lol. Don't get me started for my story on D3. ;D
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lol. Don't get me started for my story on D3. ;D
Ugh, do you ever go outside? :-\ 8)
I keep on reading about people complaining that D3 is so different and stuff and how lame it can be, but people have to realize that things have to change. If descent never really developed like d3 did, then nobody would buy and the developers would get really bored. Metallica shows this point very well. After playing the same songs over and over at every concert and practicinge the stuff, eventually you will want to change up your style and do something new. Things lose their luster. Thats why the (bad) metallica album came out. For something new.
Open your minds... don't stay stuck in the past forever
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It's not that I am close minded about trying new things at all. I can clearly see that Outrage wanted to try something different with D3. Like a complete graphics overhaul, making tri chording a feature, and the Fusion Engine. I just don't think they spent enough time working out the kinks of the game. I mean D3 is not a horrible game, it just does not feel all that refined to me. And I know that it probably wasn't completely the developer's fault either...
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Metallica shows this point very well. After playing the same songs over and over at every concert and practicinge the stuff, eventually you will want to change up your style and do something new. Things lose their luster. Thats why the (bad) metallica album came out.
Who's Metallica?
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Who's Metallica?
/facepalm
:D I hope that was sarcasm
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Eagle has a good point, D3 wasn't at all as great a game as it could've been, and in many ways, was a bit of a let down, but it still deserves more credit than people are giving it.
For me, I like D3, but for reasons I can't really explain that accurately, I don't like it as much as the other games.
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I'm not all for the nostalgia of playing the first two... I just like D3.
I assume this is why you lashed out at us ;). It's all good! Sometimes we all make uneducated-sounding generalized responses about Descent 3.
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...uneducated-sounding generalized responses...
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I liked the first 1 and maximum for the good ol' ps1
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lol. Don't get me started for my story on D3. ;D
Ugh, do you ever go outside? :-\ 8)
I keep on reading about people complaining that D3 is so different and stuff and how lame it can be, but people have to realize that things have to change.
It's the old 'complain that it's the same, and complain that it's different.
I guess it's based on preference. I liked the changes they did on Call of Duty when COD2 came out. I miss that game. Modern Warefare, not bad, but Black Ops 2 VS the 1st, heh.... nothing special. big changes, and not worth $60.
As for Descent. I like the first game in most series. It's the start, and basically fun. Online, only did D3, and that was a blast!
offline, D1 is my favorite, online, D3 is.
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I like D2 better because the gameplay was more complex than D1, but not so complex that I have no clue what I'm doing most of the time like in D3. Did I already post that? Also D3 on Hotshot, the robots are waaay too tough and I die lots because I can't deal them enough damage to kill them fast enough -- I'm looking at you, Thresher! :) On D1 and D2 at hotshot I don't die at all.
D3 is my favourite online just because it has a sort of chaos to its physics that the previous games didn't and weapons that enhance said chaos. It makes online play a little more frustrating, but so much more fun.
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Ditto.
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I like D3 the best. D1 and D2 are good for that blast of nostalgia, but it's not really the kind of game I can sit and play for hours. It's too much the same. D3 shakes things up.
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Same with me and "another' type of game. After a while, you feel you mastered it, and doing the same thing over and over and over again, is redundant.
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I have nothing against variety and mission-based-ness in gameplay -- I just think D3 didn't pull it off very well. It was additional confusion instead of additional fun IMHO. Some of the enemies were fun though -- Tubbs, Flame Gyro, Old Scratch... Hood when there's only one or two of them. Stormtrooper (except for Omegatrooper and sometimes Blackjack). Tailbot & Spyhunter...
Too bad that for most of the robots Vauss was the unquestionably best weapon for a not-that-great reason -- at least with Gauss in D2 it was the best weapon because it was the best weapon...
On the other hand D1 and D2's gameplay still feels fresh to me when I'm playing a level I haven't played before. Unless I use guidebot. The big reason I love Descent is exploration and searching for items -- with lots of explody things blowing up along the way -- instead of a linear level where you complete various objectives that almost always just happen to be placed in a conveniently straight line to the end of the mission. In D1 and D2 it's less confusing than the few less linear missions in D3 because I have a much better idea of what I'm looking for.
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I very rarely use vauss, the knock-back effect is extremely annoying on all but the largest of robots. Although, knocking stormtroopers around so they shoot each other is always nice.
Flame Gyros and Old Scratch are my nemesi. They always make me crap my pants, especially old scratch in a dark place (Subway level, dodging into oncoming trains anyone?)
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...which leads me to point out something I've noticed among the fanbase. This isn't always the case with everybody, of course, but I've noticed a trend where a Descent fan's favorite game of the series is typically the one that scares them/gives them chills/puts them on edge/surprises them the most. For example, for me that would be D1. Something about how D1 did things always could get me on edge, to the point that whenever I'm playing D1, I'm especially on edge in really big, really dark, rooms, because you can never know what might be lurking in them, especially when it's likely to be big deadly bots (bosses or a fusion hulk). D2 and D3, however, never really succeeded at recreating that feel for me, at least not entirely (they both still have their moments).
Again, this isn't the case with everyone, but when I see a fan defending their favorite Descent game, the fear factor's usually one of the things they list on average.
I like D3 the best. D1 and D2 are good for that blast of nostalgia, but it's not really the kind of game I can sit and play for hours. It's too much the same. D3 shakes things up.
I have nothing against variety and mission-based-ness in gameplay -- I just think D3 didn't pull it off very well. It was additional confusion instead of additional fun IMHO....On the other hand D1 and D2's gameplay still feels fresh to me when I'm playing a level I haven't played before.
I can see both sides on this matter. D3's great simply because it does shake things up, and as such stands out from the others, but D1/D2 are great for both nostalgia and that more "classic" gameplay. Personally, I have never gotten tired of playing D1, even though I've played the mission a bizillion times before and could probably beat it in my sleep.* At the same time, though, D3 adds an added edge to the gameplay the other games lack, and keeps things fresh and interesting by making your objectives different every time. If there were so many more singleplayer missions for D3, I'd probably play it a whole lot more than I already do. Funnily enough, it's D2 that I seem to suffer the getting-tired-of-the-same-old-thing the most on, for reasons I have never been able to fully tack down, although I suspect it has to do with the style of level architecture that D2 typically features. But of the three games, D2's the one I'm most likely to grow tired of first, and it's the only one of the three now that I've never actually managed to fully play through the official game on before.
*Disclaimer: I can't actually play Descent in my sleep. That's be cool if I could though.
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I challenge you to D1 multiplayer in your sleep! 8)
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Can't. I'm usually asleep at those times. :P
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Well if we're talking about fear factor, then D1 or D2 all the way. Cloaked lifters give me nightmares.
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what??!! descent maximum is not on the list :'(. but it was my favorite psx game : ;)
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I think it'll count as D2. We all explain our votes after we vote them anyway.