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Community => Mess Hall => Topic started by: NUMBERZero on January 18, 2012, 02:15:50 PM

Title: SOPA
Post by: NUMBERZero on January 18, 2012, 02:15:50 PM
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Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Matthew on January 18, 2012, 10:01:16 PM
You mean "You shall not pass... For now"
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Alieo on January 18, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
Would SOPA and PIPA affect those living outside the US?

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Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Matthew on January 19, 2012, 12:39:28 AM
Would SOPA and PIPA affect those living outside the US?

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Potentially, yes. They've already tried extraditing some UK kid for having links to pirated stuff on his website. Just the links, mind you, the actually content was elsewhere.

At the very least you'd have issues on any site hosted in the US (which is currently... like half the internet.)
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Kaiaatzl on January 19, 2012, 07:36:27 AM
It's idiotic.
This problem needs a needle and a steady and careful grip to hold it... your government thinks they can do it with a sledgehammer.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Scyphi on January 19, 2012, 07:50:39 AM
What's worse is that I don't think it'd even stop piracy in the end, either. I mean, where there's a will, there's a way, right? And I see the Internet find new ways around the law just about daily. All SOPA and the such would do is maybe slow them down a little, maybe hinder them for awhile, but sooner or later, I'm sure they'd find a way.

I have to wonder if we're all going about it the wrong way anyway. Maybe this is a sign that copyrights and the such need revision to take into account things like the Internet. At the very least, a better tactic would be to compromise, not continue to fight for traditions that could no longer apply too well in our modern world (Not to say I support piracy and the such, of course). Dunno how such a compromise would even work, but as much as I hate to say, I would hope that's where the politicians come in. Hopefully they can find a compromise we can all live with, at least until a better solution is found, maybe.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: NUMBERZero on January 19, 2012, 09:10:27 AM
Kaia is right and Scyphi has a good idea. Old traditions for copyright? Yeah, times have changed.

I'm just wondering if the hackers of the US are getting ready to go on a hacking frenzy and start what I would call the "IP Wars" if this passes.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Matthew on January 19, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Kaia is right and Scyphi has a good idea. Old traditions for copyright? Yeah, times have changed.

I'm just wondering if the hackers of the US are getting ready to go on a hacking frenzy and start what I would call the "IP Wars" if this passes.
The 1990s called, they want their important events back.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: NUMBERZero on January 19, 2012, 12:16:06 PM
The Fox told me that the SOPA bill has been stopped, but they are sending it back for REVISION. This is actually what legislature does often to thousands of other bills. So it's still there.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Matthew on January 19, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
Now we just need to get rid of PIPA. And the idiots who see nothing wrong with it. I mean really... What country, nay, what UNIVERSE have they been living for the past 50 years? When has anything like this been acceptable?
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: NUMBERZero on January 19, 2012, 12:24:24 PM
The Fox and I agree that this is one of the biggest things since 9/11. This has been the biggest step towards dictatorship and it's all because the entertainment companies have been yammering in the government's ear. Well, now that I think about it, it's more like government weakness by bending to the will of the companies.

Some say that the politicians should be like NASCAR drivers. They should wear their racing suits with all of their sponsor logos on them. Like "who's paying them off now?"
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Kaiaatzl on January 19, 2012, 12:54:05 PM
Or like football players and tatoo their sponsors all over their bodies?
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Alieo on January 20, 2012, 02:02:31 AM
All the more reason I'm voting for Ron Paul. He's the ONLY one that wants to clean up all this big government mess.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: -<WillyP>- on January 20, 2012, 05:20:18 AM
All the more reason I'm voting for Ron Paul. He's the ONLY one that wants to clean up all this big government mess.

That's worth repeating! +1 for Alieo!
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: -<WillyP>- on January 21, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
TheOatmeal.com blacked out in protest of SOPA / PIPA - The Oatmeal (http://theoatmeal.com/sopa)

Support The Daily WTF in Supporting the Support SOPA Movement - The Daily WTF (http://74.50.110.120/Articles/Support-The-Daily-WTF-in-Supporting-the-Support-SOPA-Movement.aspx)
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: VANGUARD on January 21, 2012, 03:42:30 PM
All the more reason I'm voting for Ron Paul. He's the ONLY one that wants to clean up all this big government mess.

That's worth repeating! +1 for Alieo!

If true, and he can, +1 here also
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: -<WillyP>- on January 22, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
Well of course the President doesn't make laws all by himself and it would be a tough fight for him as most politicians are in it for themselves and won't want to give up an inch. There are a few that are of good intent and character, and competent enough to do what is right, but I think the majority are just 'reasonably honest'.

If your state hasn't voted in the primary yet, get out and vote. I would hope that you would vote for Ron Paul, even if you don't think he has a chance, it would send a strong message if he at least does well.

If Ron Paul does not win the nomination, I am not sure I would risk another four years of BHO by not voting Republican.

I apologize for turning this thread in this direction but it really is an important issue right now. If anyone feels this is inappropriate feel free to speak out.
Title: Re: SOPA
Post by: Alieo on January 22, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
Yeah, I feel the same way about BHO. You know, I have to admit, at first, I was skeptical about Ron Paul. I was like, "What is all this fuss about Ron Paul?" Well, I went to his website, did some research, looked up some videos of him on YouTube, and totally fell in love with his views right away. He makes sense to me, and I think if anyone gave him the chance and look in depth into his views, they'd see he is the ONLY candidate that makes sense. I'm totally sold on the fact that he wants to cut ALL foreign spending and foreign aid. As he put it, "I'm tired us taking money from the poor of this country and giving it to the rich of other countries." And I'm tired of foreign countries hating on America, and us keeping on feeding them money. They want us to butt out, so why the hell don't we? Because mainstream media has brainwashed us into thinking "that's what we should do." Bullshirt!