Planet Descent
Community => Mess Hall => Topic started by: SaladBadger on April 03, 2010, 06:01:20 AM
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(http://basementnet.us/ryan/failure.png)
please tell me that this is just my dad's ISA configuration acting up again...
Individual pages can be viewed using the URLS, but nothing else is working (in the forums. all of the other pages seem to be working PERFECTLY fine
EDIT:Someone (likely gamespy) has to be messing with the databases and/or ASP scripts. The D3 mission archive can't pull up any missions. (sorted by letter, it can pull up the sub-categories) (also D1 and D2 are unaffected).
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Just checked, you are not the only one. :(
Worse still, when I visited the site, my anti-virus was alerted, detecting viral activity at the site, and promptly blocked further access. ???
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um crap.
Does anyone have Thunderbird's email address? he should probably take a look at it, see if anything is fixable now
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I've been noticing that it has been having problems.
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For quite some time now the site was auto-refreshing about every three seconds when I tried to visit the site. Tried it again today and got a blocked-threat message from my anti-virus, much like Scyphi.
Sad day. :'(
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I have successfully contacted Thunderbird and he has blocked out the portions of PD.com that reference the problem area. Kinda 'kills' the site for now, but passerbys should now be safe.
The problem most likely will have to be fixed by GameSpy ... Thunderbird is working on that.
EDIT: AVG (even the free version), if up to date, successfully catches and blocks the trojan/malware. One of my eight home systems was running Microsoft Security Essentials ... the this thing would walk right past it. Guess which system is changing what anti-virus it is running?
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Avast also catches/stops it too.
Yep, looks like Thunderbird has blocked it at the site for now. Hope he's able to get that cleared up soon.
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Important to keep in mind the anti-virus may be false positive. It looks for characteristics of virus/malware and the algorithms are not always perfect.
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When it overwrites any database call/resource set with it's link, I'd say it's not a false positive. Which is what this thing was doing and why no dynamic sections of the site are accessible.
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Well, that is bad news, I was just trying to be optimistic. Thanks for letting us know. Is it fixable?
And welcome to .net!
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I'm really hoping this is fixable. Even though we do happen to have these forums they techinically can't replace PD.com given the fact that there is currently no way to import the old theme, posts, and all of that.
And thanks TechPro/Thunderbird. Best of luck to getting the old site up again
EDIT: about the virus thing, McAfee didn't pick anything up. if it really is a bad thing then it looks like it's finally time for me to junk this piece of crap...
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EDIT: about the virus thing, McAfee didn't pick anything up. if it really is a bad thing then it looks like it's finally time for me to junk this piece of crap...
On the system I have that didn't protect against the bug ... when attempting to access PD.com (before Thunderbird's temporary block) ... the bug tried to install on that system a fake anti-virus product (one of those that tries to tell you you're massively infected and instead pushes crap-ware at you). That system has since then been cleaned.
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Hmm, didn't even get anything like that. I'll run my scanner anyways (of course), but it seems clear
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Dark day for PD.com. :( I certainly hope it's cleared up soon, too. Insanity's right, PD.net, while very nice, could never fully replace the PD of old.
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Nooooooooooo!!!! Not my PD-com! You shall not take my PD-com!
So am I correct in my understand that, at this time, the virus has been removed?
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Yes. As well as basically everything else :P
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Yes. As well as basically everything else :P
So I noticed. I think I may have a shed a tear.
So alas, I may have finally been converted to a .netter, much to my disgust. Nothing against this site, it just seems far too... unneeded. Except of course that .com doesn't work. Which makes it, sadly, needed.
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just keep on praying that the brains known as Thunderbird can get this resolved and all of that :P
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I don't think it's removed, I think TB said something about disabling it until a fix is in place.
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I don't think it's removed, I think TB said something about disabling it until a fix is in place.
Which is essentially the same thing, as far as the user is concerned, am I right? Regardless of whether it's removed or simply disabled, it's not working.
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Well, TechPro said the problem areas are now "blocked" and Thunderbird simply said the "dynamic sections" are not "accessible" so I guess that sounds like the pieces of the site are still there, just not available until they can fix it.
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From what I can tell, the only issue is that the database server was compromised. All of the PD site ASP code is untouched, it's just that any resource sets returned from the database contain that little bit of text. The database server thing is rather out of my control, and my PD address hasn't worked for sending for awhile, as the old SMTP server has been offline for ages. If the issue affects other Planet sites, Gamespy will probably resolve it. Otherwise...don't hold your breath.
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So that basically prevents up from backing up the database and then trying to restore it on a similar configuration perhaps, here?
From the looks of things none of the bigger Planet sites are affected. No one cares about PD anymore, but if gamespy wanted us to get off their servers I'm sure they'd do it in a nicer way.
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I'm guessing the other databases are probably better protected than PD's outdated system.
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In the meantime ... want to get to the missions you would normally have gone through PD.com to get?
Check out this thread! (http://www.planetdescent.net/index.php?topic=301.0)
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I'm guessing the other databases are probably better protected than PD's outdated system.
I don't think the problem is actually on our end, as Thunderbird makes it sound like the databases are external. Besides, if someone could access the SQL Server through PD and do such a serious change, Thunderbird would probably have no issues reverting it.
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Today I went to see if it was back up and it was a white screen with "The requested resource is in use. " on it.
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I can access it just fine and download all of the missions and stuff. The homepage is fine except that everything is gone and there are just a few lines of error code.
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D3 missions are the only dynamic part of the file archive, everything else is unaffected. Also, some may have noticed that I've been turning the database routines back on from time to time (for only a minute or two at the most) to see if everything is working again. In my last edit turning off the database access lines, I didn't comment out quite as much (the object that was needed is now provided, but it isn't set to a state where other things can read it). It has made the website possible to navigate for the sections that still work.
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It seems the file archive pages are untouched, but the main page has a database error in the ASP code. I haven't gotten an antivirus alert yet.
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Thunderbird, was your forum php 2.x by chance?
One of our sites was hit with something similar a few days ago and we were able to get it fixed. If you had php let me know and I will get Soupman over here to feed you some info.
Ours manifested as a virus alert and a redirect to a site that sold anti-virus software. The hacker was from Russia, IP 195.2.253.41
See our thread about it here: http://underverse.us/viewtopic.php?t=1948
Also, it started as a mail sent to the root server. Soupman specifically told our host to disable mail service but it got activated anyway.
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That link requires logging in, but it was a valiant effort.
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And I'm pretty sure PD.com is ASP anyway.
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I can't believe PD is gone. :'( I know I didn't post there much, or here as a matter of fact, but it was nice knowing it was there. Thanks to those who made .net happen. It reminds me of the LEM on Apollo 13 when the main capsule went down.
Long live Planet Descent....
Bettina
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OMG hi betinna! You do have a habit of showing up at the uncanniest times you know that?
That's a very insightful, if rather sad, analogy for it, bet.
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She always had a knack for that, though. (meaning both the popping up at the uncanniest of times, and making insightful analogies) Nice to hear from you again, Bet.
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And I'm pretty sure PD.com is ASP anyway.
Yes, that's correct. PD.com was a custom-created .asp-based forum; it doesn't use PHPbb or any .php at all.
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Well I guess I will be coming here from now on. Once a VBB refugee, and now a PD refugee too... :'(
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:D
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Well, it's not like we didn't know was coming. We had all figured that PD.com would bite it sooner rather than later, that's part of the reason why PD.net even exists. To be there to retreat to when PD.com finally bit it.
But you know, it's not really for the forums we went there, but the community. And the community still exists, it's all just about right here, now. Granted, some of them are just taking shelter here, but still. PD.com may have been irrepairably lost (we'll see, there MIGHT be a chance things can still be saved, somehow), but the gang that made it a great place to visit is all still here. :)
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Well said, sir.
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Is it nostalgia that makes one pine for PD.com or something else? Although it was the very first gaming forum I ever went to I just think that .net shines in comparison. Just curious.
Also, would it be possible to place a redirecting message on .com to this site?
Bee
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Hmmm, found the new hang out place....... :)
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Is it nostalgia that makes one pine for PD.com or something else? Although it was the very first gaming forum I ever went to I just think that .net shines in comparison. Just curious.
I blame a very strict interface standard I have* as well as nostalgia as my reasons for missing that site -- of course, there are other reasons but I'm not going to get into those.
note: this doesn't have anything to do with this site in particular -- it's more or less a problem I have with SMF
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Yeah, for a standard user like me, SMF really does look slick and is pretty easy to use.
But, it really comes down to the fact that if you really know what you're doing, .com's interface is (was?) infinitely better.
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My reason, besides this not having a mission database or years of posts, is that it wasn't necessary. Yet people posted here far more than PD.com over easy-to-avoid bugs. Sadly, it has become necessary now.
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I don't think there's any reason to treat what's happened as necessarily permanent. TB chose to disable certain sections of the site in order to avoid the exploit compromising anyone's system, so if said exploit were to be fixed, I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to enable them again. Granted, the feasibility of getting the exploit fixed is a whole other story...
(Dear lord, what is with this interface?)
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(Dear lord, what is with this interface?)
don't ask us, ask those who develop SMF and its skins...
(I'm still yet to find a skin that doesn't completly suck)
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He asked "dear lord", unless you are somehow God. :D
The only skin that I have liked is the Christmas theme. That one is easyest to use for me. Plus I like the blue.
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I like Black Light SMF...never really figured out why.
I'd be all for a theme that's closer to the PD.com's though. Heck, even if it's only accurate in the coloration. :P
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My main concern was the why-the-hell-is-this-so-small 6-point font all over the place. :P I'm on the default SMF theme at the moment, and while I'm not a huge fan of the color scheme, at least I can read everything.
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Yeah, if you get the teeny text, try a different theme. The text size isn't the same for all of them.
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I like the debase theme, and MOST of the text size is fine. It's just that some stuff needs to be up-sized.
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::coughshoutboxcough:: ::)
Good to see you here, TG.
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I've been using the Dusky theme. Nothing too small, nice (ok) colors, and nothing too big either.
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Hm. I'm kinda liking Dusky as well, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the blue. Perhaps we could make the links orange? At least it'd have somewhat of a throwback to PD.com.
Theme: Dusky (modified)
Background: #000000 (100% black)
Text: #FFFFFF (100% White)
Board color: #002266 (Dark blue)
Headings: #0077CC (Medium blue)
Link color: #FFBB00 (Light Orange)
Link rollover color: #000000 (100% White)
I'd just like to try that.. See what it would look like.
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Ok, we'll give that a try.
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Ok, Dusky 2 is now available in the theme switcher.
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Hmm, Very Interesting...
I shall have to give this a try for a while.
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Ah, this is much better.
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Don't really like the limited panel width but aside from that this beats the crap out of most of the other skins.
I wish I knew how to create templates though. With some work (and html pulled from archive.org) it'd probably be possible to reproduce PD.com's interface
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Well, we all know we want it, somebody just has to put it together.
If it was just a simple matter of photoshoping one together, I'd do it, but unfortunately, there's more to it than that. :(
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Yes, Dusky 2 is a definite improvement (I like).
If the panel width varied according to your browser width (instead of being limited to specific sizes) ... that would be nice.
EDIT: Actually it already does, it just has this huge left hand margin. Kind of limits the size. :P
You know what else would be good? ... If the title portion and user info portion of each post was in blue background instead of black background, I think that would be a good thing. It would be a very similar color scheme to PD.com yet have the new goodness that it PD.net.
About then, I just about wouldn't care about PD.com's old antiquated, limited, HTML based, easily hacked forum interface ... no matter how good it looked.
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If I knew the format this site used I could make one, but frankly I haven't the slightest clue. I haven't used this software before, and getting admin access is unlikely... So back to square 1 I guess :P
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I know that for sure Commander-In-Chief, WillyP, and (I think) myself all have the rights to be able to do that.
As for myself, I have very little (nearly zero) experience working with the themes used by the forum type ... so I would not be a good choice to make any changes (at least, not at this time).
I do know that WillyP knows how and I think it was him that made the Dusky 2 theme (a altered copy of Dusky).
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We are going to be switching to SMF2 soon, so don't bother spending a lot of time with skinning for 1.1.11. Intsead, go find some SMF2 skins you guys like and post some links. I'll be putting up a test site soon to play with.
SMF Theme Site (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php)
BlocWeb (http://www.blocweb.net/index.php?action=bwgallery;free=smf2rc3)
Tiny Portal (go to the forum then scroll down to Themes) (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php)
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I'm thinking that with some similar color adjustments like the one we just made (which, BTW, looks quite nice), this one would look PD-ish and very slick:
Blue Pearl for SMF 2.0 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2147)
I also think this would look pretty cool with a Descent-styled banner (I'd be happy to make and provide one) and some icon swaps, though I'm not sure about load-times (may be a bit image-happy):
DarkBreak for SMP 2.0 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=486)
Otherwise I am currently very happy with Dusky 2 until the upgrade. Reducing the margin percentage would be helpful (as you did with Debase, originally), but it's not necessary.
INSERT: And a power-up to you, Willy, for taking my color-palette swap idea and making it a reality. Thanks. ;)
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I agree with D2Junkie. This Dusky 2 variant is actually quite nice (and PD-ish).
If we want to play around with some other themes, I might suggest looking at The PlayRoom Basic (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2103), Royal Curve (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2022), or Sharp Curve (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2010) ... but all of them would need a bit of changes and "tweaks" ... and Dusky 2 as it is right now looks a lot like what we'd be looking for already.
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My only complaint about Dusky 2 is that huge left hand margin. With nothing in it. If it had something in it, then it'd be understandable, but it's just empty space (at least, that's what I'm seeing).
I like Blue Pearl myself, even with the coloration it already has. Though that title it comes with would need to go. :P
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Some more free SMF2 themes here (http://demo.dzinerstudio.com/).
And more here (http://www.themesbase.com/SMF-Themes/).
Crip is the one who made most of the themes here, including Dusky, here is his demo site for SMF2 (http://demo.jpr62.com/).
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Utter catastrophy! I am now getting redirected to IGN when I go to .com!
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Typical IGN. Would rather just remove something or leave it as is than fix it. Gamespy is a perfect example.
I wonder if the entire domain is dead or just the homepage? It may still be possible to directly access the mission DB.
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When I googled it, there were secondary links to the DB, but they all went to IGN.
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We could yell at them, but what's the chance that we would be heard?
hint:none
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Utter catastrophy! I am now getting redirected to IGN when I go to .com!
Looks like that was temporary, it's the same now as it was when this started. Maybe someone is working on it and needed to redirect temporarily, or even accidentally. Let's not jump to conclusions... The patient is critical but not deceased yet.
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I'm still getting redirected, WillyP.
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Strange... I'm still not. :-\
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Well then in that case start backing up the mission database.
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Well then in that case start backing up the mission database.
Why? In this post (http://www.planetdescent.net/index.php?topic=301.0) I showed everyone where they can always go to get ALL of the missions that were available through PD.com ... without having PD.com.
How could I do that? Do_Checkor is the person that has provided the storage for the missions accessed through PD.com ... PD.com only provided the listing/database of them. Before PD.com went 'belly-up' recently, Do_Checkor (along with the help of Fischlein) had already made the mission database available from another place. All I did was announce where that other place was.
Ya' all should remember it, bookmark it, whut-ev-ah ... so ya' all come back there, ya hear? ;)
Sure, it would be good to have PD.com back and working, but if it doesn't come back (perish the thought) ... We do have now what we need without it. Holy crap! ... Did I just say what I think I just said??? :o
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Then back up the forums. Back up the profiles. Just do SOMETHING with your astonishing ability to still see PD.com.
Speaking of which, what's your verdict TP? Is it possible he's actually viewing the site, or is it simply his stored version?
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At this point ... not sure. I don't have confirmation either way ... yet.
When I know for sure, I will let everyone know.
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The FTP server doesn't resolve anymore, so I hope the hosted sites had their stuff backed up.
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Ouch. At least Archive.org has *some* of the classic stuff. Especially the MPD.
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Well, that sounds like the very last nail in the coffin.
It was fun, we loved her ... and we will miss her.
OK, Back to the games....
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I actually have an old DB backup that should have the glory days of MPD buried within it. However, the system which hosted the SQL Server that held it is now running Linux. The dump is probably still there somewhere.
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So did you not have any database backups more recent than that older one, then?
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Well, it's gone for me too now... perhaps I was viewing the site on another server or a cached version... who knows. I can't bring myself to delete he bookmark, not just yet, though I don't see any hope.
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I haven't even dared try to link to the .com yet. Afraid at what I'll see... :(
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This is more than just PD...from a bit of 2AM exploring last night, it looks like just about all of the Planet sites from no-longer-active game franchises are redirecting to some sort of Gamespy error page. The original long list of them on Gamespy's site redirects to a newer, shorter list too, and the still existing sites have new URLs of the type, "planetwhatever.gamespy.com." It looks as though there was some sort of fundamental change in the whole Planet Network. I still have an e-mail address from the people I was in touch with a year or two ago...I think I'll fire a few e-mails off and see if I get any response. If they're not planning on hosting the site anymore, one can hope that they at least have it sitting on a server somewhere, so we could get it and properly host it on our own.
(If they really did lop off half the Planet Network without telling anyone first, it was a really b*tch move.)
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Yes, that is rather rude. Who do they think made GameSpy what it is today? Wait till D4 and Dwii come out then they will be begging us to come back.
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I doubt GameSpy really cares at this point. It's now pretty IGN with a green theme now. Not to say that I don't like IGN - I do think they have the fairest reviews (as evidenced by the number of fanboys that hate the site) - but this is ridiculous. :-\
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Wait till D4 and Dwii come out then they will be begging us to come back.
And then we'll say NO! Mwahahahaha! ;D
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I doubt GameSpy really cares at this point.
Exactly my point! The numbers aren't there for them. But if a new Descent came on the market, they would see the dollar signs light up and want a piece of that pie.
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Hmm...I'm getting a lack of a PD.com when I visit as well...just a whole bunch of IGN ads on what appears to be their homepage. XP
I guess we'll see what responses TopGun's emails get before assuming the worse, but it does look like PD.com is no more for the moment. :'(
Dang it...there goes my record breaking post count... :(
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Dang it...there goes my record breaking post count... :(
And my shot at catching you.
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Can someone add an extra 3000-something posts to Scyphi's count, please?
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Naw, my son is going to have to earn them again. (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-029.gif)
... but you could give you lots of powerups, if you wish.
WillyP, we need a good Evil/Devil smiley on this forum. Can we get one?
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We all know that Scyphi was a royal spammer. I was there for over nine years and never hit 3000 posts. :P
*adds salvaging PD's smileys to wish list*
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I wouldn't exactly describe him as a spammer. Just a definitely over-achieving internet presence, I'm afraid. ;D
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We all have something special about us... His was a need to reply to any and every topic made :P
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Perhaps so, but he was always good to keep his comments relevant, contributing, and usually supportive (except when really annoyed at someone).
I wouldn't call that spam at all.
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I was on PD.com for roughly the same length of time and only racked up around 1150 or so posts. Of course, I had not visited/posted on the site much at all for the past year due to nursing school (to which I must say that studying is what I should be doing as I write). I have, however, been highly active on these boards because, while I do have a soft spot for PD.com, I am quick to transition and a proponent of change (if it's for the better). I felt PD.net had a much better opportunity for community involvement by offering super-easy file hosting in the gallery. Reactor is only adding that community-centric atmosphere.
I feel like PlanetDescent has always been a small community of gamers primarily focused on providing a friendly atmosphere that encourages creativity, discussion, and above all, fun. The forum bugs and limitations of PD.com stifled that atmosphere, IMHO, so I moved on here and love it, despite having to use the groan-worthy SMF boards. ::)
That's not to say I didn't at all like PD.com. On the contrary - I loved the board design. I would kill (robots, of course) to see the board design recreated for this website. Not having the rest of the site around, as well, pretty well bites hard. Besides missions, are other downloads (such as patches, music, random junk like reticles and ship mods) still available from Do_Checkor, or are they gone?
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From reading this topic: Does anyone know what malware/trojan was on PD.com? I did some Anti Malware scans and found a password stealer and some other nasty things after Planet Descent stopped working right, but I dont know if those are it.
I'm sad. But it'll make me visit this place more often... this is my new homepage. :)
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... Not having the rest of the site around, as well, pretty well bites hard. Besides missions, are other downloads (such as patches, music, random junk like reticles and ship mods) still available from Do_Checkor, or are they gone?
Good question. I'll see if I can find out.
I do know that from the http://d3fischlein.de/ site that you can also get listings of Tools, Mods and stuff like that, but it doesn't seem to be the same stuff PD.com listed at all.
For now, you might want to use the Web Archive: PlanetDescent.com on the WayBack Machine (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.planetdescent.com) and stepping through some "hoops" you can still get/grab a lot of stuff.
You're welcome to grab stuff and help upload it here (be careful not to duplicate what others upload ... and document well, PLEASE).
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Wouldn't be looking for this, would you?
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Suh-weet. Thanks, TB!
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Well I'm pretty sure that all the stuff for PD was hosted on the same server, so I wouldn't see why not.
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It occurs to me that, if TB can track down that older database backup he has on his Linux box, we could possibly get some of it mirrored in some form here. A lot of the sections of the site haven't changed much in a long time, so even an old back-up could be useful. The Wayback Machine is a bit wonky as to what it does or doesn't decide to back up (especially in the realm of more recent forum posts), so this might cover even more of the site.
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I may look into it this weekend, but the Linux machine is currently experiencing two issues: the machine doesn't always boot up (it's over 7 years old now), and currently Slackware is throwing kernel panics during the bootup phase, which means I can only boot into Knoppix (via DVD) or DOS (FreeDOS is hiding on the system).
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Yeesh, that doesn't sound pleasant. I'll still throw out those e-mails myself, just to see what happens.
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I've got the DCA (Descent Community Album), and a lot of the other music on my computer, including the full version of the CED Expediator music that was on there for a while (and was arranged much better than any other version I've heard). I could upload them here if no one else has them.
EDIT: I could probably make a better mix of the D3 level 7 music than you had there. It was missing some samples. And the quality was so bad, I'm pretty sure it wasn't uploaded by Autopilot anyway.
I noticed some of the other songs are still mirrored on archives.descent.cx
BTW - Some of the D1 mac/playstation music here is truncated... I found the full versions on another site, do you want me to upload those?
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Alter Fox, i would love you to death if you uploaded the 13th level of Descent 3. I lost the file in a hard drive malfunction, and I never got around to downloading it off of PD.COM before it went haywire.
Also, uploaded a .zip file containing all the Descent 2 midi files. :)
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The one at PD.com was incomplete, but thanks to Darcshadow7, he extracted them all and put them in order and I just put them together.
It's right here. ;)
http://www.planetdescent.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=d3files
I actually have a high quality stereo version of Autopilot's level 7 music. It's an exact copy, but I made that one myself. I should upload that soon.
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Yeah, i should be able to piece together the other levels as well now that i have audacity. :D
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For what it's worth, http://planetdescent.gamespy.com redirects to a Site Maintenance page. Not sure if that means anything though.
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Alter Fox, i would love you to death if you uploaded the 13th level of Descent 3. I lost the file in a hard drive malfunction, and I never got around to downloading it off of PD.COM before it went haywire.
Done.
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Hi there guys! I'm new to the forum but I was a visitor to Planet Descent very regularly because it was one of the only large Descent sites that was frequently updated and showed new stuff despite being related to oldish games.
I must confess, I was honestly pretty devastated to find that Planet Descent had disappeared from its original location until I tracked it down to here.
Am I right in thinking that IGN has pulled the rug out from under your feet and that most of the content has therefore disappeared?
I hope you guys are planning on putting back together again what IGN has screwed-up. Your CMS seems pretty cool! I'm sure with a little bit of tweaking it'll be better than the IGN original.
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Thanks! We're hoping that with the release of SMF 2 this forum will far surpass our expectations of a replacement. I personally hope for more customization: all of the little buttons above the text box when posting are nice, but honestly, I like simplicity, and a few could stand to be removed.
Friday I'm setting aside time to try to retrieve just about everything I can from PD.com's backup on the WayBack machine. My ultimate priorities are patches and tools, but I'm hoping to get some of the more interesting PD.com specialty downloads (hey, everyone likes a cow texture on their Pyro now and again ;))
A lot of the PD.com stuff probably won't be uploaded until SMF 2 is released, should there occur any problems with the update that would break links or remove the uploaded files entirely. We'll probably go ahead and put up the patches, though - those are important.
And welcome to PD, Crash! ;D
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Thank you very much! Looking forward to seeing what the new version can do.
It's always best having your own server and doing it that way. It kinda makes you OWN the site.
I think it's awesome how you have 1 login for all the different bits of a site without having to shell out money to some design company. But just backup the installation on your local PC and then hack the thing until it looks the way you want.
The thing about the Wayback Machine is that it seems to have broken recently too. It hardly seems to record changes past about May 2008 anymore, irrespective of which website, which is sad. I'm not sure whether they ran out of resources or whether there was some legal hoo-harr.
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Speaking of SMF 2, when can we expect that to come up?
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I am guessing within two weeks. I am going to convert the test forum to SMF2 either tonight or tomorrow, then assuming there are no problems with that, uploading some plugins and themes, and tweaking the themes. Then I will open the site for comments. After that it should go pretty well.
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If I understand how things work correctly, any file that Checkor had hosted on the DFiles mirror should still be available, regardless of whether or not PD's database page is still accessible. Checkor might be able to provide better access to the files than tracking down links on the Wayback Machine.