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Community => Descent Single Player => Topic started by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 08:40:50 AM

Title: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 08:40:50 AM
Does anymone know if there's a complete walkthrough somewhere for the SP mission Mission At The Saturn Part 1?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: NUMBERZero on February 21, 2010, 08:44:04 AM
No, but I found my way through.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 08:52:22 AM
Me too.  ;D

The question came into my mind because I thougth it might be a good idea to provide one.

Did you take any videos of that mission?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: NUMBERZero on February 21, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
No.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: TechPro on February 21, 2010, 10:41:36 AM
No, no walkthroughs for it that I know of.   However, if I had the time I could make a walkthrough (having done it a few times.

Also, there are actually two versions of it.  "Mission to Saturn" and "Saturn Station - Titan Project".  The "Saturn Station - Titan Project being the second/newer version of it.

Either way, it is the first of seven (I think it is) levels that take place in sequence (though seperately) and are all together sometimes referred to as the "Wind Mine" set, though "Wind Mine" is the third of the levels.   Excellent set, by the way.

I'll post more about it as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 10:44:14 AM
TechPro, I'm afraid we're not talking about the same mission.  :D
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 11:00:56 AM
That's the one I meant:

(http://www.dateiliste.com/images/stories/D3Images/MissionAtTheSaturnPart1.png)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 21, 2010, 01:13:20 PM
(LL)Dark- + (LL)Atan- Project ?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 21, 2010, 01:21:32 PM
That's right.

In my opinion one of the nicest missions for Descent 3, apart from the long cinematics and that it crashes in co-op - but I think we discussed this already. :)

Everything's so detailed and realistic.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 21, 2010, 02:07:54 PM
Yes we did, heavily :)
We know it, COOP is part of the game, sure.
But MAS Part I and the following parts are NOT designed for coop.
In our opinion the Material Defender is 'alone in the dark'. Absolutely!
Or did you ever saw Dravis talking to more than one of them, or did more than one Matdefender answer him? :)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: NUMBERZero on February 21, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
Or did you ever saw Dravis talking to more than one of them, or did more than one Matdefender answer him? :)

He did in the books. And MD1032? where's the other 1031?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 21, 2010, 02:28:43 PM
I never saw, in any of the Games D1 -D3, that there are instructions given to more than one MD, did you?

And for the 103x. Let's say they died one by one. Or.., you'll know.. space is big/huge, so they may fly in 1032 different directions to different mines at the same time?
All matter of taste/ sight.
For our mission we saw it like I wrote above. We made it Singleplayer only.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: NUMBERZero on February 21, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
The MD flew with another pilot in the books by Peter Telep, but that is not from the game.


BTW, here's what your game in coop looks like!  :D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOuktAtWYUM&feature=related
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: SaladBadger on February 21, 2010, 03:26:02 PM
Or did you ever saw Dravis talking to more than one of them, or did more than one Matdefender answer him? :)

He did in the books.

Books != game.

(for the non-coders, that means that the Book isn't the game. They may share story elements but the book is a separate universe outside of Parallax/outrage's control)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: TechPro on February 21, 2010, 04:34:06 PM
TechPro, I'm afraid we're not talking about the same mission.  :D

Oop!  Right you are.  My mistake.  :-[

Not sure what I was thinking there, other than obviously thinking about something else.

Yeah, MAS is also good (as single player).   I could work at doing up a walkthrough on that too, but I'll leave that up to Atan or Dark since they were involved in it's creation and at least Atan is active here. (Atan, you guys did a great job with that one, btw)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 22, 2010, 09:16:04 AM
@TechPro
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I could work at doing up a walkthrough on that too,

Due my very spare time beside work I would be happy if you could take over that thread.
But may be I could give some answer if there will be some questions about the production of that mission(s) will come up.

In Darks and my name: Thank you all for your nice comments about that level set.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 22, 2010, 03:25:35 PM
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Not sure what I was thinking there, other than obviously thinking about something else.

Nah, we don't want to know about this. That's private, though. ;)

Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: TechPro on February 24, 2010, 07:35:54 PM
Atan,
Did Part 2 ever get released?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 24, 2010, 11:14:29 PM
According to http://www.darklevels.de/5355.html (http://www.darklevels.de/5355.html) it's being tested.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 25, 2010, 07:23:31 AM
TechPro

if I would simply say 'Yes', so it would be too easy.
There are some levels ready, including scripting. One was tested from two players. Result: One could beat it in detail, one was lost in the dark.
Level two is ready and the scripting was nearly done as we found out that we need some changes in level design and oof's.
I had to make several Editor changes so we could go ahead. Then personal problems coming up and slowed down the progress massive.
In the moment it is Darks 'time' with that personal trouble...
In the meantime I build ahead with the editor and some other stuff.
I hope (LL)Dark will get the energy and come back to work soon.
If, so there will be a good chance to see Part II this year.
Sorry, I can't say better things about, but that are the facts.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Scyphi on February 25, 2010, 07:25:49 AM
Hey, it possibly coming out this year is good news for me. :)

True, that's no guarantee, but it's something to look forward to. ;)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: -<WillyP>- on February 25, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Well, I am sorry to hear Dark is in a bad place right now and please give him my best wishes... I hope it is not to serious.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 26, 2010, 11:55:23 AM
In our opinion the Material Defender is 'alone in the dark'. Absolutely!
Or did you ever saw Dravis talking to more than one of them, or did more than one Matdefender answer him? :)
Sorry, I must have overlooked that one earlier. ;)

I never saw MD fighting in an anarchy, monsterball, or even CTF game either. ;)

SP story is SP story. It hasn't got much to do with what players like to play. Apart from that, the entire "Descent story" was made up very very vaguely, with lots of contradictions, meaning the "story" was simply built around what was available on level/mission material.

That's why there are so many gaps and inconsistencies. ;)

What I like on that mission is all the effort that had been put in, and that's pretty visible. It's right, the rest of Descent 3 is wrong about blowing up a fuel tank. There's got to be some smoke or gas fire remaining for each one. The welder. The shelves. The water level to get further in the sewers.

The way the GB is repaired. Takes 10 seconds in the game but must have taken days or longer to build and script.

The level contains details I'd never seen in any Descent mission before. That's why it is so fascinating for me.

If Outrage had put this amount of effort and commitment in their levels they'd probably still be working on level 1.
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on February 26, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
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I never saw MD fighting in an anarchy, monsterball, or even CTF game either.
That's exactly the reason why we didn't make MaS playable for that game types ;)

Yes, and there are so much more features, little details inside that levels.
I'm pretty sure that most of the players never recognized them all in detail.
Inserting that Guidebot feature cost me more than a day, much more..
And injecting 'life' into that little round bots was the hardest task.
I don't know if anyone saw for example that these little guys eat shield and energy powerups to become reloaded, repaired.
Or did anyone saw them steal powerups, or what about their formation flight and so on.

MaS PartII will own some never seen before features again.
There are simple -hunt and kill- tasks, some sightseeing tours and -things you'll need some brain for-, implemented.

 
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Scyphi on February 27, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
Oh, I noticed, Atan, that's what makes those little flying baseballs so annoying. :P

Regardless, they look really cool. 8)
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 28, 2010, 01:57:11 PM
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Regardless, they look really cool. 8)
If you're out of napalm(s) they're nasty little bastards, nothing else. No matter what they look like.  ;D
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Thomas on February 28, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
Well, and their screetching p..... me o.. in a way I can't explain without further swearing.  ;D
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: Scyphi on March 02, 2010, 07:33:49 AM
Isn't their screeching sound stolen from D2?
Title: Re: Mission At The Saturn Part 1
Post by: (LL)Atan on March 02, 2010, 08:27:19 AM
if, then borrowed ;)